rg
November 18, 2012 03:00 pm
Folks,
I have a noise on my driver's side drive shaft, sounding very much like a poorly U/J.
There is none of the "clattering" on full-lock associated with failure at the wheel end. Hence, I wonder if this is something to do with the inboard U/J. Or the bearing.
The noise diminishes when gentle left-lock is applied. The wheel bearing was replaced not too long ago. It does not sound like a wheel bearing, which makes a distinctive rumble.
Has anyone had any experience of fixing these? Can an average transmission specialist replace the necessary bearings? Or is there some mechanical exotica involved?
r
Peter.N.
November 18, 2012 04:46 pm
The inner joints don't usually make a noise when they wear but they do cause vibration, usually noticable on a long journey when the get hot and the grease melts.
Could be the centre bearing although I had one of those disintegrate without telling me, just suddenly lost drive when it slid out of the gearbox.
I have always replaced mine with secondhand ones without problem.
Peter
rg
November 19, 2012 02:16 pm
Many thanks.
I've not studied the books yet, but is replacement of the bearing fairly straightforward?
r
Peter.N.
November 19, 2012 04:20 pm
Don't know about the bearing, I fitted a secondhand shaft.
Peter
kenhall1202
November 19, 2012 06:01 pm
I replaced my 2.1TD offside shaft centre bearing just using a home made puller and tubular drift. The centre bearing is an interference fit on the shaft, backed up with a bush. The bearing size is rather non standard (at least as far as my supplier search went) at 35x62-16 + metal seals and so I bought it from Citroen, p/no 324706, together with the bush p/no 324810. Other models may use a different size bearing, so best to check.
The longest part of the job was getting the shaft off the car and refitting it after repair, which of course involves draining and refilling the gearbox.
Ken
PS 35x62-14 metal sealed bearings are readily available on ebay such as
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FAG-6000zz-Serie...=item1e7190be88Makes me wonder if the Citroen Service description of the bearing 35x62-16 is wrong - it wouldn't be the first time.
rg
November 19, 2012 07:54 pm
Thanks, Ken.
However, I wonder if the 2.5 is different. Can anyone confirm?
r
robertmnorton
November 19, 2012 08:57 pm
Hi rg, having checked the cit services site it would seem only the BE g/box has a different bearing - not fitted to the DKE. The same p/n listed by Ken is used on all shafts for HP18, ME5T & MG5T g/boxes.
robertm
rg
November 19, 2012 10:38 pm
Many thanks.
I'm a bit confused here - so the 2.5 shaft shares the same bearing as the 2.1?
xmexclusive
November 20, 2012 10:11 am
Hi rg
I would describe it as there being 3 shaft variations.
Lightweight (for BE3), medium weight (other boxes Mk1 & early Mk2) plus heavyweight for the later Mk2's.
Medium and heavyweights are interchangable as the differences do no affect the ends, lengths or bearings.
It is the outer shaft that varies.
Mediumweight outer shaft is solid & heavyweight is hollow tube.
The larger diameter of the hollow tube means the CV boots are different as well.
In my opinion for a 2.5 it is best to use the hollow shaft version.
The unsprung mass is quite a bit lower so the suspension is a bit better behaved over potholes.
John
kenhall1202
November 20, 2012 10:52 am
QUOTE (rg @ )
Many thanks.
I'm a bit confused here - so the 2.5 shaft shares the same bearing as the 2.1?
YES!
Ken
PS This You Tube video shows the removal of the inner bearing race from a Xantia drive shaft - hopefully he didn't use a hammer and chisel to fit the new bearing!, although at a pinch it could be tapped on gently using a tubular drift on the inner race.
Pressing it on is best practice.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9dCb8RyrQ0
rg
November 20, 2012 01:59 pm
Thanks,
Sorry for the confusion! All help much appreciated.
r
rg
January 05, 2013 01:36 pm
Folks,
I'm just trying to get parts for this job.
One parts chap is suggesting I need three parts, bearing, bush, and "driveshaft deflector". (??)
Looking at diagrams, it looks like I only need the bush and bearing.
The bush appears to be on back-order from Citroen via a factor, earliest date 15Jan. Does the bush usually get damaged on removal? Or will pipe grips and a post-removal file-over mean it can be reused?
r
kenhall1202
January 05, 2013 07:28 pm
The bearing is the essential part and the other two parts can be used again if not damaged. The deflector is a simply a flexible rubber disc to shield the bearing from dirt.
When I did my 2.1TD shaft I bought all three parts, however the retaining bush supplied bore no resemblance to the one removed. It looked more like a thick washer than a bush and I decided against using it even though the part number on the sealed packet was correct.
As long as the bush is still a tight interference fit on the shaft it will be OK - mine has been OK.
Ken
PS Drive the bush off indirectly, to prevent damage, by hammering or using a puller on the bearing race.
rg
January 06, 2013 04:59 pm
Thanks very much.
I have the Revue Technique, Russek, and Haynes, but can't find a decent diagram. Hence the questions. Admittedly, there's not actually much to see. It's hardly the internals of a gearbox...
Furthermore, The car needs the minimum of down-time at the moment, so I need to be fully briefed.
Thanks for your help and patience!
rg
January 06, 2013 05:04 pm
Thanks very much.
I have the Revue Technique, Russek, and Haynes, but can't find a decent diagram. Hence the questions. Admittedly, there's not actually much to see. It's hardly the internals of a gearbox...
Furthermore, The car needs the minimum of down-time at the moment, so I need to be fully briefed.
Thanks for your help and patience!