simonxm21
May 24, 2011 04:58 am
morning all,
just a quick one, my xm's clutch slips from 2000 rpm for a few miles and then is goes away? especially when i floor it! abit like driving a cvt automatic car.
my speed does increase and i've done the put it in 4th gear with the handbrake on test of which it stalls?
where should the biting point be? i have the non adjustable cable clutch.
i'm abit baffled really.
Peter.N.
May 24, 2011 12:25 pm
If the clutch is worn on the 2.1 it will tend to slip at about 2000 rpm because that's where maximum torque is being produced, it won't develop enough to stop it from stalling at pull away speed.
If you are not keen to do a clutch job - don't let it slip! it will wear rapidly if you do, on the other hand driven with restraint it could last another 20 or 30k. I had one that started slipping at about 175k which was still driving well at 192k when I sold it.
Peter
simonxm21
May 24, 2011 02:41 pm
thanks peter i was afraid you'd say that! a clutch change is beyond my skills!
also it's impossible to drive up slip roads without some powering up which causes it to slip, i'd love to drive it sensible but here in bristol it's all hills.
the thing is it stop's slipping after a few miles almost like it's warmed up enough?
cheers.
simonxm21
May 24, 2011 03:01 pm
just a thought, can a worn cv joint slip under load making me think it's the clutch?
Peter.N.
May 24, 2011 03:18 pm
If a CV joint was that worn it slipped - it would fall to pieces. The only other possibility is that the o/s drive shaft is slipping out of the diff due to the centre bearing failing but you would more likely loose drive altogether if that were the case but intermittently. If the clutch is only slipping when you first drive off it could be caused by oil getting on to the linings which burns off after a while, but I would think you would smell it.
Peter
simonxm21
May 24, 2011 04:12 pm
i did spray my clutch pivot with copper slip maybe that's got in somehow? i did this as the clutch pedal is heavy when used.
i'm sure it was o.k when i first bought it, but can't remember........
Peter.N.
May 24, 2011 05:11 pm
I doubt that would be enough, more likely an oil leak from the rear crankshaft seal - but you never know. 2.1 clutches are always heavy except my white estate, it had an new clutch before I bought it and is as light as a feather, I would be almost inclined to take it out and find out why

I suspect its the wrong clutch but its never slipped.
Peter
simonxm21
May 24, 2011 06:09 pm
maybe i'm going to have to just drive it and see what happens
my volvo 940 has beautifully light clutch and gear change
thanks for you help.
steelcityuk
May 25, 2011 11:48 am
Following on from Peters comment about 2.1 clutches, compared to most cars they're weighty, if old and worn they can be very heavy, enough so to cause knee trouble. The only solution I've found is a new genuine/valeo clutch and cable, a good clean up and new set of bushes on the rod.
Well worth doing.
Steve.
simonxm21
May 25, 2011 05:10 pm
QUOTE (steelcityuk @ )
Following on from Peters comment about 2.1 clutches, compared to most cars they're weighty, if old and worn they can be very heavy, enough so to cause knee trouble. The only solution I've found is a new genuine/valeo clutch and cable, a good clean up and new set of bushes on the rod.
Well worth doing.
Steve.
thanks steve, i'm going to persevere for know as the slipping goes after i've slipped for a few miles i'm trying to get debt free!!!
thanks everyone for your help
Dieselman
June 02, 2011 08:09 pm
This will be the friction plate worn out, it's exactly how mine was. It slipped until it heated up, but on removal there was no pressure from the pressure plate at all.
simonxm21
June 03, 2011 05:26 am
QUOTE (Dieselman @ )
This will be the friction plate worn out, it's exactly how mine was. It slipped until it heated up, but on removal there was no pressure from the pressure plate at all.
oneway or another it's a new clutch

just hope i can make it last until i can afford to get it changed