Sandstone
March 12, 2008 11:39 am
There is a very real possibility (but not yet an absolute cert.) that my XM will need a new cat.
I need to do some sums. What do these things cost now? Any preferred suppliers?
Lrt's hope that the day that it goes Beyond Economic Repair has not yet arrived
Thanks in advance for any help
Tony
P S I'm out now for the rest of the day so won't be able to answer any questions until this evening
Andmcit
March 12, 2008 01:38 pm
You could just bridge the offending item with a straighthrough pipe if the car is pre 93 model;
after this date you have to have one as it's the law. The hot hatch boys all have an MOT
pipe and a post MOT pipe for the other 364 days of the year as this will give better breathing
to the engine with improved performance and mpg albeit with a slightly rortier exhaust note.
I'd imagine it'd be like trying to breathe under water with a big straw and then through a
slightly blocked one. Good old legislation dogooders...
The bottom line is I believe the lambda sensor still needs to be there still but this is upwind of
the cat.
Andrew
citroenxm
March 12, 2008 04:05 pm
I do have 2 or 3 spare in my shead, 2 I think...
But I guess you'll want to put a known new one on..
I beleve the 2 are in good order, I certainly dont recall smelling "Rotton Eggs" before they were removed from the cars they were on..
Rgds
C
Sandstone
March 12, 2008 07:09 pm
Andrew, thanks for that but no, mine's a 1995 S2.
Cit., thanks also for that. I'm still not yet in a position to know whether or not I will need one (my Indy's working on it as I type).
Do either of you, or anyone else for that matter, have any idea what one would need to pay for a new one?
Tony
robertmnorton
March 12, 2008 07:18 pm
Hi sandstone, no idea on price for a V6, but mine from CATS DIRECT for 2.1td was £99 delivered.
Andmcit
March 12, 2008 07:32 pm
Hi. Sorry if I missed the car in your signature (unless it's just been updated!

I can wish!).
try:
http://www.cats-direct-shop.co.uk/two-year...hp?recordID=402http://www.cats-direct-shop.co.uk/three-ye...hp?recordID=402There's a ceramic one (whatever that means!) for £117.54 + vat
There's a steel one for an additional £50!
The first price isn't cheap but it's not hideous either.
Andrew
Sandstone
March 12, 2008 08:32 pm
Thanks, Andrew and Robert.
I'm quite relieved: I'm sure I remember them as second-mortgage jobs!!!
Tony
citroenxm
March 12, 2008 08:52 pm
If you do it your self I would be VERY VERY interested to know how the hell you'll get (Looking up at the exhaust manifold from UNDER the car) the manifold to pipe bolt out of the DRIVERS side of the pipe!!
I'm bleeding well daammmd if I can do mine!!!
Rgds
C
Andmcit
March 12, 2008 09:09 pm
I agree. For once it's a damnsight easier on the 24v'er!
It's not made any better if the AC compressor is there on the top jammed up against the bulkhead...
Andrew
Sandstone
March 13, 2008 10:37 am
Still not sure that it is the cat. It's failing the MOT on excessive emissions on tick-over. Duff information from some control sensor, if I'm lucky; cat if I'm not!
Tony
Andmcit
March 13, 2008 10:40 am
Could be the dreaded lambda sensor. After the fuel scare last year we'll all know
what they're all about...
Andrew
Sandstone
March 15, 2008 09:22 pm
At my Indy's suggestion a bottle of "Cataclean" (http://www.systemproducts.com ) was put in the tank. It has now passed the emissions test. It's OK now for another year.
Bit of an anti-climax really but thank you again, Andrew and Cit. Let's hope that I don't need to revisit this in a year's time!!
Tony
citroenxm
March 15, 2008 09:26 pm
Your welcome!!
Glad your thru the MOT thats all
Didn't know theres was such cleaning products! I knew there was Fuel and injection cleaner products, but Cat cleaners?? Thats a new one on me..
Rgds
C
jorgy9
March 15, 2008 09:26 pm
Wow never knew there's such a product! Sounds like a real saviour!
cheers
George
jorgy9
March 15, 2008 09:28 pm
All together:
WOW NEVER KNEW THERE'S SUCH A PRODUCT!!!
G
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