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DrTim
First, the good news, finally got round to putting the new air filter I won from ebay a while back in the old red car, I think last time was when I first got it in 1998. Most noticeable improvement is power steering, which has been somewhat "heavy" for some time, seems to be a bit more perky all round:-)

Second bit of good news was I ruined the tyre on the same car that picked up a screw and a slow leak as I was going out on Sat night by driving slowly to the garage and pumping it up (it was down to about 10 psi), and leaving to go flat all week (no time in the day) rather than changing it when I noticed it. Tyre was otherwise borderline repairable and only had about 1k miles on it.

Why is this good news? Because when I went to get it looked at the tyre guy spotted the jacking point was bad. "You'd be f***ked if you had to use the car jacK" was his almost exact comment. Notwithstanding the fact that unusually he tried to use the jacking point before sticking it right under (usually they go right under straight away) and so may was have contributed to the deterioration, I am taking my own advice from last week and not spending any negative energy, just I feeling lucky that I didn't have the car resting on its axle last sat nite!

So, new sill is it? Or can the jacking points be repaired more easily? I guess I'll get the indie to have a look. I can see myself acquiring something cheap that will go right under and live in the boot until MOT time (early sep) though. Any suggestions?

Blue one driving around all week, first time for a month or so, MOT soon, seems to be OK, its just a bit too racy for around town (and I spend most of my time running all over the place in the week), and not as comfortable as the old Presteige. Havn't done many miles since I Ksealed it so too soon to know about that, but I think it was sounding a bit less "pinky" than it was before (but I am no expert in these matters, dioes this make sense, it was loosing small amount of water, even with new rad cap).
I'll get a new accumulator and maybe fronts done (rears done last summer) and the cams/water pump (no history, R reg car) done if MOT is reasonable. My mate spotted a bit of a bump in the chassis in front of the rear NS wheel arch, but I'm pretty sure that was there before the last MOT that the previous owner did. Anyway, plan is to get it in to indies for test with plenty of time to spare (exp 6 Apr). I think the sidelight dash bulb is gone too, or do S2 cars not have one of those?

As for flushing with petrol or diesel or Hydranet2000, I am gonna wait for a bit more feedback from you guys who are more used to doing it yourselves, but I'm very interested as the blue S2 car definitely has bad road noise from the rear and gives low pressure warning when going from low to normal during citrobix, and the red one is starting to leak a bit of LMH from the rear I think, quite often "kicks" a bit when performing citrobics and I have noticed that sometimes LHM seems to "disappear" (presumably in the rear somewhere) only to "reappear" after topping up. Having to use LMH plus now too, which does seem to leak out faster that the normal LHM. Got to be worth a try before getting the height corrector refurbished. surely?

happy xming to you all
wirdy
Yeah, try spotting an XM without bent jacking points or dented sills from idiot tyre fitting bays. I reckon this considerably accelerates corrosion. Has anyone still got all their jacking point protectors?

Using three XM's and a Xantia as evidence I think the Hydraulic pressure warning and stop light is normal when going from low to normal. The system dumps all the hyd pressure back to the reservoir in low so then takes a while to pump up again once the lever is moved back to normal. You should try an Activa some time - certainly not a great getaway car when it took a 90 secs every morning to pump up all 10 spheres and get it raised onto its feet, then it did a little dance while the levelling rams and height correctors had fights whilst deciding whether to level the car in roll or pitch first. I quite miss that.
DrTim
QUOTE (wirdy @ Mar 2 2008, 00:56 AM)
Yeah, try spotting an XM without bent jacking points or dented sills from idiot tyre fitting bays.  I reckon this considerably accelerates corrosion.  Has anyone still got all their jacking point protectors?

Using three XM's and a Xantia as evidence I think the Hydraulic pressure warning and stop light is normal when going from low to normal.  The system dumps all the hyd pressure back to the reservoir in low so then takes a while to pump up again once the lever is moved back to normal.  You should try an Activa some time - certainly not a great getaway car when it took a 90 secs every morning to pump up all 10 spheres and get it raised onto its feet, then it did a little dance while the levelling rams and height correctors had fights whilst deciding whether to level the car in roll or pitch first.  I quite miss that.

Thanks for the input Wirdy, didn't know they had jacking point protectors, must have gone before I got mine. I am just worried now in case I NEED to change a tyre, especially out of town. I did manage it with the car jack last summer, but it looks worse now.

Reassurance about hyd warning on the S2 appreciated, though the accumlator does have clicking fits occasionally so I think it definitely needs that and new LHM too (yellowish was the indies comment last summer).

The S1 car doesn't give any warning during citrobics. I did also experience the "full magic carpet" effect after all spheres changed and new LHM in 2005 in that one for a fleeting few days. Its never been "quite" the same before or since, but as it wasn't hydraflushed (not quite sure what the indie did) I guess there was crap in there that eventually worked its was around all the new LMH and caused the rapid loss of magical softness.

As for the 90sec wait, I am used to that in the S1 car but the S2 with anti sink is much better in that respect, didn't sink over several weeks idle recently.

No anti-sink in the Activa then?
Andmcit
QUOTE (wirdy @ Mar 2 2008, 00:56 AM)
Yeah, try spotting an XM without bent jacking points or dented sills from idiot tyre fitting bays. I reckon this considerably accelerates corrosion. Has anyone still got all their jacking point protectors?

Using three XM's and a Xantia as evidence I think the Hydraulic pressure warning and stop light is normal when going from low to normal. The system dumps all the hyd pressure back to the reservoir in low so then takes a while to pump up again once the lever is moved back to normal. You should try an Activa some time - certainly not a great getaway car when it took a 90 secs every morning to pump up all 10 spheres and get it raised onto its feet, then it did a little dance while the levelling rams and height correctors had fights whilst deciding whether to level the car in roll or pitch first. I quite miss that.

I've seen the same thing too - the sill lip beside the jacking point get's bent, pulling the
double skin open at the most vulnerable area of the car. I've had to rescue my 24v'er
in one area with this issue so don't get complacent that the car won't rot!

My latest Activa takes an age to get itself sorted even after a short stop. I expected it
to have anti sink but the front does appear to drop quickly. I'll need to get my head
around the spheres as the rear end seems firm and a bit like an ordinary non Citroen
car!! (That's not intended to sound like the ultimate Citroen put down!) biggrin.gif

Andrew
robmc52
I've bought a Clarke 1.5 ton scissor jack from Screwfix that goes nicely under the front onto the subframe, haven't tried it under the rear yet. It's good quality kit and was only 6 quid or so.
DrTim
QUOTE (robmc52 @ Mar 2 2008, 16:57 PM)
I've bought a Clarke 1.5 ton scissor jack from Screwfix that goes nicely under the front onto the subframe, haven't tried it under the rear yet. It's good quality kit and was only 6 quid or so.

Thanks, thats real cheap isn't it? XM, is 1.5 ton, right? Might be more loaded I guess, I'm tempted to go for 2T really in case I get a flat with a full load in the boot and back
(when I travel overnight I leave the kitchen sink behind but not much else, another reason I like XM's).

Could this be the start of the slippery slope that leads to me actually doing work UNDER my cars:-)?
robmc52
QUOTE (DrTim @ Mar 2 2008, 18:19 PM)
QUOTE (robmc52 @ Mar 2 2008, 16:57 PM)
I've bought a Clarke 1.5 ton scissor jack from Screwfix that goes nicely under the front onto the subframe, haven't tried it under the rear yet. It's good quality kit and was only 6 quid or so.

Thanks, thats real cheap isn't it? XM, is 1.5 ton, right? Might be more loaded I guess, I'm tempted to go for 2T really in case I get a flat with a full load in the boot and back
(when I travel overnight I leave the kitchen sink behind but not much else, another reason I like XM's).

Could this be the start of the slippery slope that leads to me actually doing work UNDER my cars:-)?

Only bought it for tyre changing by the roadside really, the front jacking points on my car are knackered & will be the subject of some creative welding when the weather brightens up. I'd be tempted to keep my 3 ton trolley jack on board when travelling abroad or when carrying a load, it's not as if there's not enough room in the back. laugh.gif
techmanagain
>>>>>didn't know they had jacking point protectors<<<<<<
They were still available from Citroen, but in true Citroen fashion, they are only listed for S1 (even though they also fit S2) and only sold insets of 51 Must be an even older model than the S1 'cos mine only had four!
wirdy
QUOTE (techmanagain @ Mar 2 2008, 21:52 PM)
>>>>>didn't know they had jacking point protectors<<<<<<
They were still available from Citroen, but in true Citroen fashion, they are only listed for S1 (even though they also fit S2) and only sold insets of 51 Must be an even older model than the S1 'cos mine only had four!

The cretins at National tyres broke my front two protectors last year - by putting a trolley jack onto them and jacking away.....craacck!! mad.gif

'Sorry mate, didn't know they came off' was the reply from the acne-ridden yoof as I contemplated the broken shards of plastic on the workshop floor.
DrTim
QUOTE (techmanagain @ Mar 2 2008, 21:52 PM)
>>>>>didn't know they had jacking point protectors<<<<<<
They were still available from Citroen, but in true Citroen fashion, they are only listed for S1 (even though they also fit S2) and only sold insets of 51  Must be an even older model than the S1 'cos mine only had four!

I can see a forum bulk buy coming on, thats if they're relatively cheap and anyone has any functional jacking points left to protect:-)

I had a quick look today and the others seem OKish, but the front o/s is well knackered and to be honest has probably been that way for ages. Maybe I should get religion because some god was obviously smiling on me when I changed the wheel with the car jack last summer.

No time to upload pics now sorry, had an unexpected and long overdue link up with a very old friend, just got back, gotta do dinner and get my head down ready for Monday. Sorry Ciaran, I got some pics of the alternator but that will have to wait too.
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