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Ciaran
Hi guys,

Anyone here had any experiences with K-Seal?
I've been looking into getting my Xantia back on the road, and I just started it up tonight to be greeted by a small wisp of steam from the heater matrix ph34r.gif

I need this car to work, for a few months at least, as I'm giving it to my sister (her car has died and shes on her final year placement miles away).

Anyway, getting sidetracked. Has anyone had any success with using K-Seal or something similar to it so seal up matrices? I have a bottle of it somewhere (still looking!).

Thoughts appreciated as always smile.gif

Ciarán

P.S Someone has given me another (identical) Xantia with an apparently cooked engine (but possibly just failed thermostat), which I'm going to look at tomorrow, sadly I know the heater matrix is not something easily swapped by any means! smile.gif

robert_e_smart
Hi Ciaran

I have used some radiator sealent in my Xantia which also has a dodgy heater matrix amongst other problems.

It worked for a while. But then the heater matrix gave jip again and produced that lovely coolant steam when any heat comes through the matrix. Is the carpet in the passenger footwell damp? If not, there is a possibility that the pollen filter is damp, and may be drying out, causing increased condensation.

The Matrix is a b**tard to change in the Xantia, the dash has to come out completely. The matrix itself isn't that expensive, so it would be worth fitting a new one rather than swopping one from another car, esp if its from that Xantia that has already cooked itself.

Out of curiosity Ciaran, what type of Xantia is it and how many mile has she done?
DrTim
QUOTE (Ciaran @ Jan 15 2008, 21:59 PM)
Hi guys,

Anyone here had any experiences with K-Seal?
I've been looking into getting my Xantia back on the road, and I just started it up tonight to be greeted by a small wisp of steam from the heater matrix ph34r.gif

I need this car to work, for a few months at least, as I'm giving it to my sister (her car has died and shes on her final year placement miles away).

Anyway, getting sidetracked. Has anyone had any success with using K-Seal or something similar to it so seal up matrices? I have a bottle of it somewhere (still looking!).

Thoughts appreciated as always smile.gif

Ciarán

P.S Someone has given me another (identical) Xantia with an apparently cooked engine (but possibly just failed thermostat), which I'm going to look at tomorrow, sadly I know the heater matrix is not something easily swapped by any means! smile.gif

K-seal resurrected my Preseige!

After water pump went last Nov and I drove it until Jan just topping up with water several times a day (it seemed to be OK when warm but lost loads occasionally on starting and always on cooling down) the indie's were giving me the head shake due to bubbles in expansion tank when warming up. They are very good and even pointed me towards the ad for the new blu VSX one rather than spending more on the old one.

I went as far as getting a number for a scrap dealer but couldn't BARE to part with it.
Whilst picking up a F reg Passat estate that I borrowed for a few weeks to tide me over
we had the AA out (!) and I talked thru the XM thing with the guy, and he showed me a bottle of K-seal! I had previously tried something else from Motaman that had no effect.

To cut a very long story short, the third bottle of K-seal did stop all the bubbling. The car lay mostly idle untill oct due to needing rear brakes and new cam tensioner, but I've done over 600 miles in it since (when it has both mirrors on and even better sounds again too!). No coolant loss in that time, and I havn't checked often but I have checked and no bubbles in the coolant since that 3rd bottle of K-sela went in.

The bottle claims its a permament repair for 80% of HG problems. Others shake their heads and say "surely its just a temp fix". Only 2 ways to know really, either wait for HG to fail or have it done. My finances dictate the former option at present. I spent more on that car in the last year than any year since 1998.

Re heater matrix, I'd give it a go mate, I think the claim is it fixes any leak up to .8mm diameter.

I wish I'd known about K-seal before I had the water pump replaced, to be honest.

Ciaran
Hi Robert,

Strangely, the carpet isn't damp no. I had a good look in round the bottom of the dash and can't see any signs of damp or steam escaping. I thought maybe it was just condensation, as the car hasn't run in several months, but I left it idling and came back 20 minutes later to a fair bit of light steam inside. It doesn't smell of coolant though, and the coolant level hasn't budged from where it was (I checked it was a healthy colour and good level before starting).

Yep I know the matrix job is a right balls on these, so I'm trying to avoid having to change it if at all possible. I take it you've done one? I believe its not difficult, just incredibly long and mundane?

The Xant in question is exactly the same as my own, i.e 1.9TD SX. Its a shade out on colour mind you. It has "a hundred and something k miles on it" according to the guy that owns it. The story goes that it was going well, besides a persistent oil leak that he couldn't fix (replaced various seals etc), then one day a few weeks ago it overheated and the light on the temp gauge came on, so he stopped and got towed home. He says that it starts and runs fine, but he hasn't done anything with it since, and bought another car.
When I initially bought this current Xantia, it had exactly the same symptoms, and turned out to be just a blocked thermostat, the head survived intact luckily. Maybe this other one will be the same, in which case I may attempt to fix the oil leak and give it to my sis, as it has tax and test still. Either way, when this is over I'm going to have to get shot of one of them, whichever becomes the doner. Are you after any bits etc?

Cheers

Ciarán
xmexclusive
Hi Ciaran

If it has a sun roof the steam inside may just be from standing water trapped in the tray.

Regards

John
Ciaran
QUOTE (DrTim @ Jan 15 2008, 22:45 PM)
K-seal resurrected my Preseige!

That's encouraging Tim! smile.gif

I think I'll give it a go. Mind you, I've searched everywhere, and can't find the bottle I had, so may well have to order more.

Did you just pour it in the expansion tank, or do you need to put it in one of the hoses?

Cheers

Ciarán
Ciaran
Hi John,

I wish it were just t the roof, but this steam emenates from the dash vents at the base of the windscreen and floats upwards... sad.gif

Ciarán
jorgy9


Just to comfort Ciaran a bit, my XM has lately also started to steam up, but it's still OK with continuous use of the windscreen demist in a low-medium speed. The stupid thing is that this is because I've put a new expansion tank cap last August to cure the constant drop of the coolant level 2cms below the specified. But pressure has found the weakest link... Yesterday I've put the old cap back on!!! mad.gif

cheers
George
Ciaran
Hi George,

Always comforting to know someone else is in the same boat, so errrrr...sorry :lol

You're right about the amount of steam coming out, only seems to become an issue when the fan is on high speed for some reason. Of course keeping it on low doesn't cure the problem, but kinda out of sight out of mind and all that! tongue.gif

Interestingly, I also noticed tonight that the lever in the Xant which changes from hot to cold, jams halfway acrosss and won't shift to the cold section at all... I wonder if thats related.

Really should have started this thread in the lonely Xantia section, come to think of it smile.gif

Ciarán
DrTim
QUOTE (Ciaran @ Jan 15 2008, 23:22 PM)
QUOTE (DrTim @ Jan 15 2008, 22:45 PM)
K-seal resurrected my Preseige!

That's encouraging Tim! smile.gif

I think I'll give it a go. Mind you, I've searched everywhere, and can't find the bottle I had, so may well have to order more.

Did you just pour it in the expansion tank, or do you need to put it in one of the hoses?

Cheers

Ciarán

Maybe there is a local stockist foor you. Motaman has it here and a specialist car shop just down the road from my indie.

I did make the mistake in the gloom of last feb of overfilling it with the first two bottles, maybe that was why they weren't that effective, just spilled out, but also with the third bottle I did drive it for over an hour after adding it to the expansion tank rather than just getting it up to temp parked as I did before that. The "smart" component of K-seal seems to like high temperatures.
wirdy
Used K-Seal on my Xantia that was weeping from the heater matrix.

Worked great and I know it's still fine after 2 years and 20k miles as a workmate has the car now.
Ciaran
Sold. Both you and Tim have had success. Will be trying some, as soon as I can find it that is... biggrin.gif

citroenxm
QUOTE (Ciaran @ Jan 15 2008, 23:02 PM)


Yep I know the matrix job is a right balls on these, so I'm trying to avoid having to change it if at all possible. I take it you've done one? I believe its not difficult, just incredibly long and mundane?


Hi Ciaran

Done 3 of these now - Two Series Ones and a SERIES TWO!!

Yes S2 Xantias still suffer a crap matrix, but I Found a S2 a little easyer to do though, the dash is in more "One Piece" construction, caertainly around the steering colum that holds the Hazard and Air con Buttons, and behind the scenes of the radio too.

Its not a hard job, but a bit involved, hence people rather throw the cars away then get it done for the sake of 25 quid or so for a matrix.

Luckily then on XM's the dash does NOT need to come out to be done, it slides out from under the drivers side foot well.... Prehaps a good idea, as we could have lost more XM's to that problem too..

Rgds
citroenxm
steelcityuk
Don't know if it helps but my local GSF stock it.

Steve.
Ciaran
I sent SWMBO out for a bottle of it earlier, she said they didn't have any but gave her some other stuff (Novatio or some crap I've never heard of).
I wish she'd just left it alone...

Will see if this other stuff is any good...

Ciarán
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