I really like that second thin black one I have to say. Only thing I'd maybe say was the possibility of varying the tag line. You could have 'The best XM site on the net', or something like 'XM tech advice, parts, chat, consuelling (ok maybe not that bit!). The only thing with 'long' words like 'enthusiasts' in a small font like that is it may fail to be read in a passing glance, but then again as you said Andrew, chances are a fellow XM owner would be checking out your car anyway.

Other than those, the simple wide, thin URL ones (about the size of the latest two you've produced) work very well, and are quite subtle, i.e the kind of thing you wouldn't mind putting at the top of the windscreen or rear window. I do think the 'split' sticker idea is a good thing to reduce costs too.

Ciarán

"The best Xm site on the net" suggests there are other Xm forums!!

Are there!? REALLY?

The tagline is obviously important and thus far really I've just largely
incorporated the same initial message, whilst working out the general layout,
content and proportion.

Whether the "quirky, smart, addictive" tags are accepted or even viewed
as relevant is open to debate; I feel they're a 'reward' pay-off line to a viewer
who actually takes the trouble to look closer after 'getting'; the immediate first
message/name/url leaving them with a chuckle and something to think about!!

I like the contrast/impact of the latest black ones and it's worth remembering the
effect a variation of scale on the final sticker may have for any of these ideas
- some could be the entire width of the front/back window OR a 10" wide
strip as a rear tailgate sticker!! It almost does depend what the scale of the
screen you're viewing these on!!

Believe it or not, one other consideration I've made is the 'cheat' of concentrating
soley on the front end and lopping the top/roof off the picture to account for the fact
that there IS an ESTATE with just a big a following as the saloons!!

I'll have a fresh look at the double 'A side'/2 for 1 options asap...

All the best,
Andrew

I agree with you Andrew about your comment about "The best XM site on the net".

I still like "The site for XM enthusiasts".

Derek

I agree, as far as I know this is the only dedicated XM site and I think should be advertised as such (unless someone knows different).l

Peter.N.

What's the position now on the Club XM Sticker? It seems to have gone very quiet. Do we have a final design?

Err,

Sorry to be a boring old fart. The designs Andrew has put forward are indeed very innovative and very skillfull. I know I couldn't do it.

However!! Can I put another train of thought please?

I am of the view that simple is nice.

I thought about a basic sticker with the word Citroen written across it with the squigly XM overlaid over the top in a chrome effect and the web address written along the bottom in smaller writing. Yes?

Ok you can tell me to crawl back down my hole now!

I too think that simple is best, however I think the emphasis should be on the Forum. My choice would be a main headline "Club XM Forum" with, below it in smaller letters "The site for Citroen XM enthusiasts" followed by the http// address.

I hate to set the cat among the pigeons but I do like the sound of Demags one, as well as the others we've talked about.
I'd like to think we could order some of each, but unfortunately quantity may be a problem. The initial figures I've had from people I enquired with about printing them, is that 250ish would be the minimum amount. In that light, I think we have some way to go to even build enough orders for that amount, let alone multiple strands.

Its a real pity, because personally, I just can't make my mind up and I want some of each!

Unless someone knows of anybody that is willing to produce them in smaller numbers?

Ciarán

Hi all

I haven't actually asked about getting them printed yet, but as soon as i can i will see what the minimum number of stickers are, I was on The BX club site for the first time yesterday and saw the window sticker they have, looks quite good too, They have a merchandise section as well!

Sorry I've been unable to contribute here lately.

I've been told I need to find a new home for 9xXm's, 9xCx's, 9xXantiae
and a 2CV so you can imagine my mind is tad distracted!!

OK, what's the consensus now?
Text only/no pics?

Pictures don't cost extra you know!?

Andrew

I've been trying to work out the best way of obtaining a consensus. Collating the views already expressed would be difficult and trying to organise a vote virtually impossible. The two things we all seem to be agreed on are that we need one and it should/must contain the Forum address.

As we intend to use the internet address, should we not ask Chris as the site owner for his permission to use it? If he has no objection to its use, why not ask Chris, and Noz as site administrator, to choose the final design from the excellent designs submitted by Andrew and the various other suggestions?

Derek

I liked the initial designs. I think it needs to be a simple as possible so that it's easily read, with an illustration that shows clearly what car it is and wording that comes straight to the point and is large enough to read on the move. And yes, I think Noz should be involved

Peter.N.

I do agree on the simplicity front. As much as all the slogans and all are humerous and fun, when it gets down to it, what are the bare mimimum, most important elements you would need to see in a sticker?

I think Peter summed it up; an image that makes it clear what its about, the club name, and URL?

Hi All,

This excellent idea of having a club sticker is going to die unless we get a grip of it. Before prices can be obtained we need to finalise the design.

Could I ask you all to please consider my suggestion of letting Chris and Noz make the final selection. The easiest way is to count the "No" votes, then if it is unpopular maybe someone can come up with a different idea of design selection.

If you agree to the suggestion you don't need to do anything, if you disagree just post "disagree" or "no" or whatever. That way, after a suitable period we can see what the feeling is by comparing the number of "No" votes against the number of viewers from now. Current count is 908.

My apologies to those of you who will think I'm trying to hijack the show, I just want to see this good thing brought to fruition. Once we see the level of opposition I will take no further part.

Derek