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> The Truth About The Events Surrounding 911, this is neither a crank nor a joke
noz
  Posted: June 21, 2006 09:04 pm


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Hi all,

Time for a new slant on things - please bear with me until you get to the bottom and don't dismiss this as a crank until you have seen the evidence.

Has anyone else made themselves aware of the current situation developing regarding the events surrounding 911? Are you aware that there's even suspicion as to who was to blame? How many towers fell on 911? Did I hear you say 2? Well you would say that because that's how the media and the US governments agency FEMA has portrayed it. There were actually 3 buildings which fell that day. World Trade Centres 1, 2 and 7. WTC 7 'fell' down some 7 hours after WTC 2.

Very briefly, because its a HUGE subject. There are very eminent members of the scientific community who can present irrefutable evidence that the events of 911 as portrayed by the US government are nothing short of baloney. Here are some of the facts:

1. It is not physically possible for the towers to have free-fallen as fast as they did. They fell as fast as a ball would have fallen in a vacuum. They would have fallen much slower if the oficial 'pancake' theory was correct. Each floor would have slowed the progress of the ones above it even if it had fallen as described.
2. It is not physically possible for fire to have collapsed the towers. Most of the kerosene from the aeroplane tanks burst in a fireball outside of the building. The remainder burned for a short time. The trails of thick black smoke seen on the film footage indicates a fire starved of oxygen and therefore burning relatively cold. The sheer mass of steel would have conducted the heat away from the fire so fast it could not have reached 'bending' temperature let alone 'melting' temperature.
3. For up to 4 weeks after 911 molten metal was being lifted out of the site by the demolition contractors. It is physically impossible for anything connected with the plane crashes or stored in the building to have generated enough energy to melt steel.
4. The molten steel was found in floor -7 ie 7 floors below ground floor. It is not physically possible for any of the events on the floor where the planes crashed to melt steel 7 floors below ground.

All of the above facts and many, many more point to the buildings having been deliberately felled using explosives called Thermite.

There is not one shred of evidence that a plane crashed into the pentagon. No wings, no tail section, no undercarriage, no engines, no seats, no bodies, no chairs, no luggage - absolutely nothing. Sure, something did hit the pentagon. The pictures of the scene before the outer wall collapsed showed a very circular hole in the wall about 5m in diameter. Speculation abounds as to what could have caused the hole but the strongest theories coupled with both eye-witness testimony and other forensic evidence suggests it was a 'tank-buster' missile.
At no time during any of the 'attacks' was any fighter aircraft scrambled from any of the airbases surrounding the New York area or the Washington area. This is strange to the extreme of incredulity. 67 times in the year before 911, fighters were scrambled from nearby air bases to escort planes back on to their flight paths if they wandered off. It is standard procedure to intercept any aircraft deviating from its designated course in that area. Not one plane left the ground despite knowing about the pentagon 'attack' some 46 minutes before it happened.

This represents but a tiny fraction of the scientific study and forensic investigation carried out by the more enlightened amongst us. If you are hearing this for the first time it is entirely logical for you to be sceptical and totally discount this as some crank conspiracy theory. The 'crime', if it was to be considered as such would be of such reprehensible magnitude that the only conclusion you could come to was that it just couldn't be true. However, if you want to get away with something you stand a better chance the larger the scam is.

I hope by now I have gained enough respect to at least not be discarded at the first stage as a lunatic. At least give me the benefit of the minutest doubt by hearing me out and reading/watching some of the material outlined below. If, after you have watched some of the scientific documentaries, you still feel I should be locked up then so be it. However, I forecast that when you have seen the evidence you too will be as worried as I am. The implications of this are too large for my limited vocabulary.

All of the films footage and documentaries are widely available on the web. However, because this is not and cannot be a publically supported campaign I know of no site where the video can be streamed. However, using something called Bit Torrent technology the files can be easily shared. First of all you need to download and install a piece of Bit Torrent software. I use one called Azureus which comes very highly recommended but there are many more. You can download a copy here:

http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

Once the software is installed and configured (particularly if you are behind a firewall, you need to make a pinhole in the firewall to let the files through) you need to locate the source of the file you want. There are innumerable sites with search engines, the ones I use most are:
www.torrentspy.com and www.torrentportal.com

To save you the hassle of finding the files I will include copies at the end of this post. Each film is approx 1.5 - 1.75 hours long and are 750MB or 1.3MB depending on the quality. On a 512k line I can download two films over the course of one night.

If you don't want to or don't have the use of a PC to do this then you can surf a lot of material about the subject on the web. Just type in '911 truth' in google and you'll get hundreds of thousands of hits on the subject. The more you read the more you will want to find out. It is so important to the future of this world that you will not want to put it down.

If I can urge you to do just one thing for your own sake - watch one film with a scientific basis and one with a political basis. Watch the scientific one first in case you dismiss it based on the political film only.

I hope you can sleep at night after this...

in all seriousness,

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I only know how to upload one file per post so I'll have to upload a few posts
This one is the scientific one

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Posted: June 21, 2006 09:06 pm


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Here's a semi scientific one

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Posted: June 21, 2006 09:07 pm


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and the follow up

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Posted: June 21, 2006 09:08 pm


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the scariest one of all

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and another

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and another

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and another

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and another

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Posted: June 21, 2006 11:30 pm


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Interesting data. Personally I always thought that it is entirely possible this event to have been designed from inside (american government agencies, CIA etc), to punish a whole breed of young executives and consultants for the horrible stock market crash of 2000 (the dotcom bubble, remember? All the number 1 responsibles were in this buldings), and in the same time to give the perfect excuse for USA to progress with execution of one of the strategic scenarios they always had on the board-control of the oil-. Or the other way round, if u prefer. This idea sounds very Machiavellistic -would a government kill their own citizens?- but in strategic politics everything is calculated just in numbers.

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Posted: June 22, 2006 11:14 am


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At my time of life I am extremely cynical, thinking that I have seen it all - or most of it - before.
However, reading and re-reading the "noz" screed, I am prepared to be a little less cynical and the more I think about it, the less cynical I become.
There is little doubt in my mind that the USA (at least) is so oil-hungry that they might do anything to achieve the aim of controlling the sources outside USA.
It is not only "Russia" - or whatever title the powers in that part of the world use - that wishes to be the greatest power on earth; the USA and China are also fighting for the same thing. No matter that we speak the same language as in the US; that does not preclude us thinking that we could not be in their line of fire if we get in the way of them any more than we would be if it were China or Russia pursuing their chosen path.


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Posted: June 22, 2006 07:57 pm


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Oops, the forum software treats .torrents very strangely. Normally a dialogue would appear asking you to 'Open', 'Save' or 'Cancel' but not his time. Just download the zip file, unzip and then select the file from the 'Open' dialogue box of your preferred Bit Torrent software.

If you have any other problems getting these to work just drop me a line here.

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