Cx 22trs 2165cc Petrol '89 G Silver 73k Miles

Really!? I asumed since it wasnt on the euro n cap site it was never tested?

I wouldnt mind finding out how well it did.

I'm not totally sure if there's much stopping that 2.5 TD or V6 engine trying to bulldoze it's
way through into the cabin and the front subframe is only restrained by tabs off it's trailing
edge onto the bulkhead and steadied by 4 short removable spars. Have you studied the front
end of an Xm once it's had it's 'front of house' items of kit dismantled off it?

Now talking about Cx's for a minute (remember!!?) it has a substantial extra subframe
arrangement that is effectively a huge metal 'ring' that the engine is manacled to as well
as the suspension wishbones preventing any movement back to the bulkhead; there's also
a gap of around 8-10" between them under normal conditions before a heavy head on tries
to push the engine back...

http://www.martinfiltenborg.dk/citroen/subframe.jpg


...so in a head to head between an Xm and a Cx I'd say the older car will fare better!!
Not so sure in a side impact mind - probably biased to the Xm but the Cx does have smaller
door apertures.

Anyhow, not trying to be morbid! Did someone here mention there was a Cx for sale?

Andrew

This post has been edited by Andmcit on November 30, 2008 07:51 pm

I've just been on the phone with Peter who wants to see this car go to someone
who wants it and will appreciate it and not have to resort to the indignity of ebay.
Tight space and current cashflow now dicate all sensible offers will be listened to!!

I can't raise this kind of money at the drop of a hat so can't make an offer either!

Anyone?

Andrew

Really!? I asumed since it wasnt on the euro n cap site it was never tested?

I wouldnt mind finding out how well it did.

I remember reading a safety/crash test report on executive cars (on dead trees) that dates back to the days before we had heard about NCAP (which was born in 1997). In that report, the XM actually did VERY well compared to the likes of BMW's, Mercs and Volvos.

Some things that stick in the back of my mind:
- it did quite well on front and side impact tests (this was the MK2 version, with four airbags). The bodyshell remained pretty much uncompromised, including the footwell, and the doors could still be opened, be it with some force.
- on frontal impact, the engine got out of harm's way by dropping itself onto the road, allowing the bodyshell to slide over it (I think the BMW did that too)
- there was a special section on whiplash, in which the seats and the ability to adjust the XM's headrest to be very close to the driver's head scored points, although there was a warning that really tall drivers ran out of height adjustment;
- unlike NCAP, this report did not ignore active safety (the possibilities offered by the car to help the driver avoid accidents). The excellent braking and the car's handling remaining fairly well intact under fierce braking or swerving stress, and the excellent 360 degree vision contributed to the XM ending near the top of the pack. A special note was made about the XM's commendable behaviour in the event of a blown tyre. I remember an ironic note about a Volvo driver probably being better off if a big tree would fall on top of the car, but that the number of tyre blowouts in everyday traffic was notably higher than the number of big trees falling on cars.

<rant>
What NCAP has done for us is introduce a laboratory concept of passive safety. A car that handles dysmally during an emergency stop, getting out of control, but that keeps all its passengers relatively unharmed in the ensuing crash, gets 5 stars.
What this has led to is the industry, striving for NCAP starts, providing us with pillars the size of a small house, thereby preventing us to see the object we will soon crash into. 360 degree vision in a modern car is almost invariably worse than in a car of the pre-NCAP era.
While there is no denying that this has enhanced passive safety, it has also instilled a false confidence in drivers of modern, 5-star cars. As a result, the number of fatalities has not gone down as dramatically as the increase in passive safety would suggest.
</rant>

Thanks for listening... now will someone please make a decent offer on that CX?

peter

This post has been edited by peterh on November 30, 2008 07:56 pm

SOLD!!

And it wasn't me what bought it either!!

Andrew