Air Conditioning

Ah, but i know someone who would lend me a car trailer to collect a car. The thing which isnt so easy is we dont have a car which can safely tow it with a car on the back.

The Xm has a tow bar, which has been used a few times buy us, but i think our Xm pulling a heavier Xm on a trailer would be a little over doing it.

Activas are great tow cars, ours used to tow our big iforwilliams horse box and our two large horses quite a few times - yes probably over its legal limit, but it pulled well

All of this makes me me think, im pretty happy that the Xm does not have the Diravi system

I have seen it done, but doesn't towing an XM on an trailer with another XM exceed the recommended maximum weight limit (ie weight of car + trailer).
You can probably get away with it but if plod decides to be awkward and check the tow car's VIN plate then there might be some explaining to do. Using a 4X4 tow vehicle would be a safer bet.

What experience have other members had of recovering XM's by trailer?

Ken

Thats why i wouldnt try it, its too risky. Ill have to find a 4x4 to use if im ever in the need to recover another car.

Looking at the specs, my Xm weights 1440 unladen, it can tow a braked trailer of 1300 so it couldnt even tow itself!

Incase anyone wants to know, the V6 and diesel Xms can tow 1500, the petrol turbo is 1300.

Interestingly the 'tow hitch download' for all hatch models is 110 Kg but for the estate its only 80Kg

This post has been edited by Citroenmad on November 24, 2008 06:30 pm

DIRAVI is superb for the tricky maneuvering a big piece of kit around non existent spaces
especially with it's powered self centering!! Anyhow, don't forget full assistance is available
at slow speeds and less is on tap when you go faster.

I've found towing with a similar weight car has always been OK with the Cx and Xm over the
past 18 years as far as being stopped/plod interest etc is concerned? Had traffic cars pass me
on the motorway without any problems on many occasions over many different Constabulary
areas. Maybe I'm just lucky, but ascribe to the view that if you appear to be taking safety
seriously with securing the vehicle with a correctly distributed load and run a self leveling BIG
Citroen you'll be left alone. Famous last words now no doubt...





but for the best tow vehicle you can get:



Sorry If I'm boring folk who've heard/seen this before but you did ask!!

Andrew

This post has been edited by Andmcit on November 25, 2008 01:40 am

No your not boring me I thought id seen pictures of your cars before towing others. The red Cx looks fantastic Nice pictures.

Just to keep my post on topic, i came across this earlier: DIRAVI Helps explain a few things to the novice

This post has been edited by Citroenmad on November 24, 2008 07:02 pm

Stay on topic!!!!!!?

We ARE talking about this totally fabulous invention called DIRAVI steering
AND HOW GREAT/SAFE IT IS FOR TOWING!! OK, OK, great when it's working - sorry Phil.

(well I suppose I'm talking about it and I'm not biased whatsoever...
...godammit - there isn't a smiley for innocently whistling... )

AND we ARE in a CX section of the Xm club forum!

Andrew

Brilliant pictures Andrew.

The Safari picture brings back nostalgic memories of my Meteor Grey 2.5 diesel which my uneducated neighbour used to disparagingly refer to as the 'hearse'.

Ken

The previous owner put a big yellow smiley sticker on the back which I've left on as he
got fed up with references to it being a hearse!! Thinking about it, folk seem to keep out
of my way when I'm in it...

Andrew

The dealer has been sent a letter recorded delivery asking that the car is collected and the money refunded within 14 days. Having spoken with the thoroughly decent Martin at Pleiades, it seems the problem my CX has is:

1. Not unknown
2. A danger to me and to other road users
3. Likely to have worsened to its current condition over several months, and therefore there is little doubt it was a pre-existing fault
4. £170 parts plus fitting to rectify, though he said it would require 6 hours (!) minimum

I do not think I am being unreasonable in rejecting the car, particularly as the dealer is a self styled Citroen specialist. I mean, hello?

That sounds like a good solution really, you can always find another.

So the dealer you bought it from is not interested in repairing it FOC for you? Or are there other things wrong with it?

Once you have had a bad start with a car, its often best to start again with another and hopefully more reliable one!

Shame Phil, but you've obviously had a bellyfull of the car before it really had a chance to
endear itself to you! I'm gutted for you as I'm guilty of always harping on about how folk
on Citroen forums should get one before they all end up in the hands of enthusiasts who
won't want to sell them or basket cases beyond redemption or worse; overpriced and tarted
up beyond their true condition dealer fare.

If it's any consolation I can give a fair warts and all appraisal of another Cx for you if it's
within my sphere of influence and can put a good word in for that silver late G plater my pal
has too. If that had it's minor cosmetics sorted I'd tell him to hold out for £1500 - 1700+

Andrew

Good Grief,

you sending a CX back because it has one minor problem ??? If it has little to no rust THAT IS ALL THAT MATTERS !!! Anything else is easily fixable. Daravi is bomb proof. I've driven CX's since I was 16years old, and never needed to touch a steering rack or daravi controller. Just stick another control unit in it. It's not difficult. You have listed a couple of minor niggles .... Mate there NOTHING. These cars are mostly 30years old. Get used to little bits & peices needing a little tinkering ... It's an old car ...

Air-con .......................... groan .............................. Why oh why did you have to ask about that. I'm assuming the car doesn't have existing air-con ?? I'll give you an overview soon'ish.

seeya,
Shane L,

It's not really the nature nor the magnitude of the problems that are the issue here, more that the CX was sold to me as being far more of a car than it actually is. In addition, the seller has made no effort whatsoever to help me resolve matters, and has even flatly ignored correspondence sent by my solicitor. That tells you more than anything I could bash out here

To be frank, motor dealers cannot simply add a random amount of profit to the price of their cars and then wash their hands of the deal once it's done - that's called "illegal". In addition, it is also against the law to sell a vehicle in an unroadworthy state, and strange as it may seem I'm not turning a blind eye to it regardless of how simple the solution might be. Whether it's a minor problem, major problem, is easily fixed or takes days, the specialist who sold me the car should not only have been aware of the problem but should have offered to sort it.

This post has been edited by ThwartedEfforts on December 12, 2008 02:02 pm

I know EXACTLY how you feel about this situation Phil, and no doubt everyone else here will too!
There's nothing worse than feeling you've been 'stitched up' by a seller where they blatantly
misrepresented the Cx and in your case sold it where it was dangerous and undriveable as well
as defective knowingly; there'd be no way this problem on the steering could go unnoticed in
much the same way a slipping clutch or overheating engine would significantly alter the valuation
on the car.

At what point does this mean their 'good name' get's shamed on all the forums as you're not
getting very far with them it seems...

Andrew

Sorry to hear of your woes with this CX, im with Andrew you should get the car in the sort of condition you were led to believe it was in, not dumped on the drive only to have the seller wash his hands of all responsibility. Dont get me wrong, if this was a private sale it is what i would expect ie it would be your responsability to determine what condition the car was in and make an offer accordingly but you pay a dealer the extra premium to sort these things before delivery not pick the vehicle up dirt cheap wash and hoover it then stick 1k on above its true value for the privalidge.
I hope there is a satisfactory outcome to all of this for you......

Regards
D