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DoubleChevron
Posted: October 07, 2008 03:43 am


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Sadly it doesn't cover the CX sad.gif But I just banged in the XMs vin

Vehicle family XM II
AS RPO No 06679 CJ 3 0020
Engine serial number 10 DA89 6000798
Gearbox serial number 20 GZ5A 0224295
OPB XDLT
General information
Product type CAR
Commercial marque/Component type CITROEN
Vehicle family XM
Silhouette 5 DOOR SALOON
Trim level EXCLUSIVE
Engine TURBO DIESEL XUD11ATE
Transmission BVA4
Interior trim type ALCANTARA "C7"
Upholstery colour "FY"
Gearbox (Characteristics) BVA 4HP18
Engine (Type) XU/XUD
Other badge, " Misc. " EXCLUSIVE

Vehicle characteristics
Steering UNVARIABLE POWER STEERING

Fuel supply-Engine
Fuel supply TURBO-INJECTION EXCHANGER
Fuel DIESEL FUEL
Emissions standard (engine) EEC 19-5 DEPOLL (ENGINE)
Pre-filter ASSEMBLY WITHOUT PRE-FILTER
Catalytic converter WITHOUT CATALYST
Oil cooler MNTG EXCHANGER ON ENG & G/BOX
Crankcase gas circuit heating W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
Fan 2 FANS , 2 RATES , UPPER
Fuel Vapour retrieval WITHOUT PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
Injection associated variant MOUNTING BOSCH

Gearbox-Driveshafts
Final drive ratio REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 21 X 75
Wheel style "MONTE-CARLO" WHEEL
Clutch WITHOUT CLUTCH
Seal, wheel end WHEEL-SIDE JOINT DIAM 20
Seal, differential end REAR AXLE SIDE JOINT JB3A
Tyre (Size, Type) 205X65X15 V TYRES
Wheels fitted 6" RIM ROAD WHEELS
Wheel (Type) ALLOY WHEELS

Suspension-Steering-Brakes
Rear anti-roll bar REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 22
Front anti-roll bar FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 24
Hydraulic pump 5 SUCKERS PRESS PUMP
Rear suspension sphere IMPROVED RR SUSP SPHERE
Front suspension sphere UPPER "NOK"
Main accumulator sphere UREPAN ACCUMULATOR SPHERE

Bodywork-Exterior fittings
Wheel embellisher (Style) WITHOUT WHEEL CAP
Third brake lamp W/O EYE LEVEL REAR LIGHTS
Sill illumination lamp SILL ILLUMINATION
Washer jet WINDSHIELD WASHER JET WITH DEFROST
Ext. rearview mirror comp. function WITH REVERSE GEAR PASSENGER SIDE
Windscreen wiper ADJUST INTERM WINDOW WIPER + WATER LEV INDICATOR
Rear screen wiper REAR SCREEN WIPER
Headlamp wiper HEADLAMP WASHWIPE
Number plate WITHOUT LICENCE PLATE
Front foglamp FRONT FOG LIGHTS
Exterior rear view mirror (Driver side) HT EXT RRVW MIRROR EL INT CONTR
Exterior rear view mirror (Passenger side) OUTSIDE PASS RRVIEW MIRROR HEATED ELEC CNTRL
Spare wheel STEEL WHEEL + STANDARD TYRE
Sun roof ELECTRIC SUN ROOF
Glass (Appearance) TINTED

Interior fittings
Anti-theft alarm ALARM ULTRASONIC+PERIMETER STD
Cigar lighter FRONT + REAR CIGAR-LIGHTER
Rear head restraint JOINTED REAR HEADREST
Front head restraint JOINTED FRONT HEADREST
Rear seat SEPARATE FOLD BACK BENCH SEAT
Rear seat armrest WITH REAR ARMREST
Radio Telephone WITHOUT TELEPHONE PRE-EQUIPMENT
Rear seatbelt RETRACTOR+RETRACTOT LAP
Front seatbelt PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT WITHOUT ALARM
Climate (Ambient temp) TEMPERATE COUNTRIES
Speed graduations GRADUATION MPH
Console COATED LONG CONSOLE
Remote control REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
Dashboard equipment DASHBOARD WITHOUT WOOD DECOR
Tachometer (signal connection) REV COUNTER FLYWHEEL
Loudspeaker LOUDSPEAKERS
Radio controls REMOTE RADIO CONTROL
Screening (Blind, Side sunblind, sunroof) WITH SUN VISOR SCREEN
Driver seat control DRIVERS FRT SEAT ELEC CONTROL
Front passenger seat control PASSENGER FRT SEAT ELEC CNTRL
Driver seat adjustment ADJUST DRIV LATERAL BEARING
Front passenger seat adjustment PASSENG TILTING BACKREST FIXED LATERAL BEARING
Front seat armrest (Operation) FRONT ARMREST ELECTRIC
Compact Disc WITHOUT COMPACT DISC
Front window lift SEQUENTIAL CONTROL FRONT WINDOW LIFTER
Rear window lift ELECT CONTR RR WINDOW LIFTER + LOCK SYSTEM
Driver's window lift SEQUENTIAL DRIVER'S ELECTRIC WINDOW
Display WITH MATRIX POINT
Courtesy mirror DRIVER AND PASSENGER WITH LIGHTING
Oil gauge STD OIL LEVEL INDICATOR
Heating element NON HEATED SEAT
Ignition Code (Operation) NO CODED IGNITION
On-board computer NO COMPUTER
Courtesy lamp WITH RR INTERIOR LAMP
Radio receiver PERFORMANCE 2 RDS RADIO
Cruise control SPEED CONTROL
Driver's seat height control PARALLEL DRV HEIGHT ADJ
Air con./temperature regulation AUTOMATIC TEMPERATURE CONTROL
Carpet CARPET-RAISED TUFTS F210
Switch STANDARD IGNITION
Fuel gauge NEEDLE TYPE FUEL GAUGE
Locking control CENTRAL DEAD LOCKING
Steering wheel SPORT LEATHER STEERING WHEEL
Partition window PARTITION WINDOW

Electrical
Alternator ALTERNATOR 90 AMP
Battery BATTERY L3 400
Starter motor STARTER MOTOR CL 5
Special lighting WITHOUT PARTICULAR LIGHT
Cen. locking rem control frequency 433 92 MHZ HETERODYNE
Multiplexing WITHOUT MULTIPLEXING

Component manufacturers

Miscellaneous
Country type (GB)
Special specification STANDARD
Driving position RIGHT HAND DRIVE
Side impacts DOOR WITH REINFORCEMENT
Refrigerant REFRIGERANT LIQUID R134
Exterior accessories BUMPER BODY COLOUR


Then the Xantias VIN

Vehicle family XANTIA
AS RPO No 06603 CJ 1 0076
Engine serial number 10 HJB3 3016689
Gearbox serial number 20 GZ68 0466668
OPB DIL0
General information
Product type CAR
Commercial marque/Component type CITROEN
Vehicle family XANTIA
Silhouette 5 DOOR SALOON
Trim level LEVEL 3
Engine INJECTION XU10J2
Transmission BVA4
Interior trim type DIAMANT VELVET "K8"
Upholstery colour "FY"
Gearbox (Characteristics) BVA 4HP14
Other badge 2,0 I
Other badge, " Misc. " NO ADDITIONAL BADGE
Badge XANTIA BADGE

Vehicle characteristics
Steering POWER STEERING

Fuel supply-Engine
Fuel supply INJECTION
Fuel filler cap FUEL CAP WITHOUT LOCK
Fuel LEAD FREE PETROL
Emissions standard (engine) US 83 DEPOLL (ENGINE)
Pre-filter ASSEMBLY WITHOUT PRE-FILTER
Oil cooler WITHOUT OIL-WATER DISTR CHAMB
Crankcase gas circuit heating W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
Fuel supply cutoff FUEL FEED CUT-OFF
Regulation 70/221 (Fuel leaks) WITH NON-RETURN VALVE
Fuel Vapour retrieval NON CONTROLLED PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
Injection associated variant MOUNTING MAGNETI MARELLI

Gearbox-Driveshafts
Final drive ratio REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 17 X 65
Wheel style ALLOY WHEEL BELFAST
Seal, wheel end WHEEL-SIDE JOINT DIAM 17 5
Seal, differential end AXLE-SIDE JOINT JB2A
Tyre (Size, Type) 195X55X15 TYRES
Wheels fitted 6" RIM ROAD WHEELS
Wheel (Type) ALLOY WHEELS

Suspension-Steering-Brakes
Rear anti-roll bar REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 21
Front anti-roll bar FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 22
Hydraulic stop WITH HYDRAULIC STOP
Hydraulic pump PRESS PUMP 6+2 + NON-SINKING
Rear suspension sphere UPPER REAR SUSPENSION SPHERE
Front suspension sphere UPPER "NOK"
Main accumulator sphere UREPAN ACCUMULATOR SPHERE
Steering travel STEERING MECHANISM TRAVEL 161

Bodywork-Exterior fittings
Horns HORNS-HARMONY
Rear spoiler ASSEMBLY WITHOUT REAR SPOILER
Wheel embellisher (Style) BELFAST STYLE 15 INCHES
Side repeater indicators SIDE FLASH-UNIT ASSEMBLY
Third brake lamp WITH EYE LEVEL REAR LIGHTS
Washer jet WINDSHIELD WASHER JET W/O DEFROST
Ext. rearview mirror comp. function WITHOUT INDEXED REAR VIEW MIRROR
Engine bay soundproofing BULKHEAD + BONNET SOUND-PROOFING
Light CLEAR GLASS
Windscreen wiper ADJUSTABLE ALTERNATING DEVICE
Rear screen wiper REAR SCREEN WIPER
Headlamp wiper W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
Front panel blank WITHOUT FRONT BUMPER PLUG
Bumper BODY COLOUR GREY STRIP
Number plate WITHOUT LICENCE PLATE
Front foglamp FRONT FOG LIGHTS
Exterior rear view mirror (Driver side) HT EXT RRVW MIRROR EL INT CONTR
Exterior rear view mirror (Passenger side) OUTSIDE PASS RRVIEW MIRROR HEATED ELEC CNTRL
Spare wheel STEEL WHEEL + NON STANDARD TYRE
Sun roof FIXED ROOF
Glass (Appearance) TINTED

Interior fittings
Anti-theft alarm WITHOUT THEFT PROTECTION ALARM
Rear head restraint WITHOUT REAR HEADREST
Front head restraint JOINTED FRONT HEADREST
Rear seat INTEGRAL FOLD BACK BENCH SEAT
Rear seat armrest WITHOUT REAR ARMREST
Radio Telephone WITHOUT TELEPHONE PRE-EQUIPMENT
Rear seatbelt REAR RETRACT BELT + ABDOMINAL RETRACT BELT
Front seatbelt PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT WITHOUT ALARM
Climate (Ambient temp) HOT COUNTRIES
Speed graduations GRADUATION KMS/H
Radio equipment FEED AERIAL RECEIV FRT SPEAKER TWT REAR SPEAKER
Remote control REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
Dashboard equipment FACIA PANEL WITHOUT WOOD
Misc. int. lamps MAP READING LAMP
Door trim DOOR PANEL WITHOUT WOOD DECOR
Loudspeaker W/O LOUDSPEAKERS
Radio controls WITHOUT REMOTE RADIO CONTROL
Passenger compartment soundproofing SOUND-PROOF 7KG/M2
Screening (Blind, Side sunblind, sunroof) WITH INSULATION (CURTAIN,SUN VIS SCR,SUN ROOF)
Front passenger seat height control FRONT ADJUSTMENT PASSENGER SPACER
Driver seat control DRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
Front passenger seat control PASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
Driver seat adjustment DRIVERS LUMBAR ADJUSTMENT
Front passenger seat adjustment W/O PASSENGER LUMBAR ADJUSTMNT
Int. upholstery elements CONSL+ROOF+RR QUART WIND JERSEY
Front seat armrest ASSEMBLY WITHOUT FRONT ELBOW REST
Compact Disc WITHOUT COMPACT DISC
Front window lift SEQUENTIAL CONTROL FRONT WINDOW LIFTER
Rear window lift ELECT CONTR RR WINDOW LIFTER
Driver's window lift SEQUENTIAL DRIVER'S ELECTRIC WINDOW
Passenger's window lift ELEC CNTRL PASS FRONT WINDOW LIFTER
Courtesy mirror DRIV OCCULT+PASS LIGHT+OCCULT
Oil gauge OIL TEMP GAUGE + WARNING LIGHT
Heating element NON HEATED SEAT
Ignition Code (Operation) STD CODED IGNITION
Radio receiver RADIO EQUIPMENT
Cruise control SPEED CONTROL
Driver's seat height control PARALLEL DRV HEIGHT ADJ
Air con./temperature regulation WITH SIMPLE REGULATION AIRCON/TEMP
Storage (others) LOWER SETTING BOX FR AND RE DOORS
Load space storage W/O BOOT TIDY
Rear carpet REAR CARPET-RAISED TUFTS F210
Carpet CARPET-RAISED TUFTS F210
Lighting timer ADJUSTABLE TIMER
Exterior temperature (Scale) EXT TEMP INDICATOR CELSIUS
Switch CODED IGNITION
Water temp indicator WATER TEMP INDIC +RED TELLTALE
Locking control SIMPLE CENTRAL LOCKING
Steering wheel LEATHER STEER WHEEL 4 BRANCHS + AIRBAG

Electrical
Alternator ALTERNATOR 90 AMP
Battery BATTERY L2 300
Starter motor STARTER MOTOR CL 3
Special lighting WITHOUT PARTICULAR LIGHT

Component manufacturers

Miscellaneous
Country type (AUS) AUSTRALIA
Special specification STANDARD
Atmospheric conditions NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
Driving position RIGHT HAND DRIVE
Traffic side LEFT HAND DRIVE
Side impacts DOOR WITH REINFORCEMENT
Surface conditions BAD TERRAIN
Exterior accessories 2 COLOURS EXT ACCESSORIES
Emergency warning triangle WITHOUT WARNING TRIANGLE
Power variation (fiscal rating) W/O TREASURY RATING VARIATION


This could be a handy little bit of software !

seeya,
Shane L.


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Location ... Ballarat, Victoria, Australia.
Real cars:
Citroens CX's, DS, GS's slowly rusting away.

Lumps of merde wearing Citroen badges:
'96 XM 2.1TD slugomatic ... "The fragile expensive one".
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kenhall1202
Posted: October 07, 2008 09:15 am


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http://service.citroen.com by any chance?!

Ken


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97R XM 2.1 TD VSX Saloon, RP 7249, Emerald Green
96P ZX 1.9TD Saloon (Alas no more, rear ended and written off!!) replaced by:
'55 C4 2.0HDI Exclusive ('Alive with technology' or should it read 'Even more things to go wrong!')

Location: West Cumbria, UK
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DoubleChevron
Posted: October 07, 2008 09:21 am


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Yeah I think it's manuals too though... It's a staggering two DVD's FULL !


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Location ... Ballarat, Victoria, Australia.
Real cars:
Citroens CX's, DS, GS's slowly rusting away.

Lumps of merde wearing Citroen badges:
'96 XM 2.1TD slugomatic ... "The fragile expensive one".
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rowanmoor
Posted: October 07, 2008 09:31 am


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I presume it is the Laser system that dealers have. There is a thread on XM-L about someone selling it for £17.50 at the moment in the internet.

I would be tempted, but you have to ring them with an activation key when you install it and they have to give you an authorisation key. Someone like that is unlikely to still be there when you next reinstall your PC.


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94M XM 2.5 TD VSX Estate RP 6430 Forest Green
Redhill, Surrey.
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Posted: October 07, 2008 09:48 am


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That sounds more like the Citroen DocBackup info which as its name suggests is a standalone version of the information to which Citroen dealers have online access.

Various UK and European sellers offer this on eBay for around £20 to £30. I bought a copy mainly to gain some maintenance info on my Citroen C4. Such information is not yet available from Haynes or any other publisher as far as I am aware (probably because so many operations (eg changing the brake fluid) now require the use of the Lexia computer maintenance/diagnostic set up).

Ken


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96P ZX 1.9TD Saloon (Alas no more, rear ended and written off!!) replaced by:
'55 C4 2.0HDI Exclusive ('Alive with technology' or should it read 'Even more things to go wrong!')

Location: West Cumbria, UK
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DoubleChevron
Posted: October 07, 2008 10:03 am


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Yeah that's the one, Citroen DocBackup smile.gif You just spoof there network ID so it doesn't matter where you install it smile.gif

seeya,
Shane L.


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Location ... Ballarat, Victoria, Australia.
Real cars:
Citroens CX's, DS, GS's slowly rusting away.

Lumps of merde wearing Citroen badges:
'96 XM 2.1TD slugomatic ... "The fragile expensive one".
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rowanmoor
Posted: October 07, 2008 01:59 pm


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Am I right in thinking that DocBackup is the new name for the old Laser? I know they changed the name, but not what to.

Seems like different sellers have different methods of getting round the copy protection then. Shame you can't tell for sure what they do before spending your money in many cases.

This post has been edited by rowanmoor on October 07, 2008 02:01 pm


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Posted: October 07, 2008 02:49 pm


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Am I right in thinking that DocBackup is the new name for the old Laser? I know they changed the name, but not what to.

I think you are right. The format of DocBackup is just the same as that used on the Citroen Service website.

I had trouble installing my eBay copy of DocBackup because the 'unlocking key' supplied would not work on my PC however it did work on my son's PC for some unknown reason. However after a few emails to the seller, I received a different 'key' which worked on my own PC.

The best way to assess seller's backup is to read their feedback and see how other buyers have got on with installing it.

Ken

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97R XM 2.1 TD VSX Saloon, RP 7249, Emerald Green
96P ZX 1.9TD Saloon (Alas no more, rear ended and written off!!) replaced by:
'55 C4 2.0HDI Exclusive ('Alive with technology' or should it read 'Even more things to go wrong!')

Location: West Cumbria, UK
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Posted: October 08, 2008 01:08 pm


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QUOTE (DoubleChevron @ Oct 7 2008, 02:43 AM)
Sadly it doesn't cover the CX sad.gif

Country type (AUS) AUSTRALIA
Surface conditions BAD TERRAIN

This could be a handy little bit of software !

seeya,
Shane L.

Hmmm, I wonder what it would say about my DS19 if it covered it . . .

Engine GUTLESS
Transmission FROM ANOTHER PLANET
Suspension MAGIC CARPET
Spheres FOUR SUSPENSION, ONE MAIN ACCUMULATOR, TWO BRAKE ACCUMULATORS
Tyres ALMOST UNOBTAINABLE
Seats FINEST BRITISH BOVINE, HORSEHAIR, SPRINGS
Bolt threads METRIC ON FRENCH COMPONENTS, WHITWORTH ON ENGLISH COMPONENTS

I suppose it's fun to dream.

Roger

PS love the two-word summary of Australian driving conditions!


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Posted: October 08, 2008 01:35 pm


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SSSSssshhhh,

don't upset the locals, there Big BX's will get all envious if we talk about proper Citroens .... Think of it, proper brakes without springs under the pedals, proper high pressure steering racks, proper center point steering..... Always plenty warm enough, lots of squeaks, rattles, bumps, thumps and vibrations to keep you guessing and on edge ..... What could be better than a proper rattly, vibrating, stinking bloody hot Citroen cool.gif user posted image user posted image

It is nice to climb into the XM, punch the "windscreen" icon on the climate control hear the air-con and fans kick to life, while you have warm air gently wafting towards you while the car demists in the blink of an eye..... Now if ti was a proper Citroen you'd have any bit of fabric/rag/cloth you could find smearing the windscreen, while you have the fans howling away (having little to no effect on it's demisting ability) while you contemplate holding your breath and winding down the windows unsure.gif wacko.gif

I think all the Aussie cars have alway had extra "strengthening" plates and "rough terrain" bits added... Even back in the DS and CX, GS times !

seeya,
Shane L.

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Location ... Ballarat, Victoria, Australia.
Real cars:
Citroens CX's, DS, GS's slowly rusting away.

Lumps of merde wearing Citroen badges:
'96 XM 2.1TD slugomatic ... "The fragile expensive one".
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Posted: October 08, 2008 04:50 pm


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<It is nice to climb into the XM, >

That's right, Shane. I tend to get a bit blase about my XMs, you only really appreciate them after you've ridden in one of the lesser vehicles.

Derek

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2004 C3 Sensodrive Exclusive
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Posted: October 09, 2008 01:02 am


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No, no no !!!

you have me wrong, the CX's and DS's are vastly superior in every aspect, all owners of them will tell you this.... This is because the heat stroke from traveling in them has permanently damaged there brain function to the point where nothing else is good enough.

Gimme my smelly, rattly, tired, noisy old CX anyday ..... er, except where it over 30degrees.... And um, when the suns out .... and um, when it's steamy and the windows need to demist... It's a disease I tell you user posted image user posted image I wouldn't swap my CX for a dozen XM's ! user posted image user posted image user posted image

seeya
Shane L.


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Location ... Ballarat, Victoria, Australia.
Real cars:
Citroens CX's, DS, GS's slowly rusting away.

Lumps of merde wearing Citroen badges:
'96 XM 2.1TD slugomatic ... "The fragile expensive one".
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