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| citroenxm |
Posted: October 25, 2008 10:11 pm
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Andre's Mate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2058 Member No.: 257 Joined: October 10, 2005 |
.............................. ok then andrew, whats so bad about rear spheres? Are they NOT lieing down like BX, Xantia, XM units??
Im not put off easy... Ive been Citroen Driving since I was about 19.... and fixing them myself too I still cant wait! Rgds Paul -------------------- 1993 K Reg 3.0 V6 12 Valve Auto (Green) LPG S1.5 SORNd
1990 H reg 3.0 V6 24 valve Manual. Grey S1 SORNd 1991 H reg 2.1 SED td Manual, Maroon. SORNd 1992 K reg 2.1 SD Manual. Getting ready to sell on 1998 V reg Xantia HDi Exclusive Silver Location: YOU'LL NEVER FIND ME!! |
| Andmcit |
Posted: October 25, 2008 10:42 pm
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They don't hang about with oodles of space like the Xm allowing easy (too easy as it all swings
about too freely straining the feed pipe?) access to the actual sphere. The subframe completely surrounds the ram and the sphere braces against the end dome mounting in the same way as the GS/GSA. The safari one is even more cumbersome as the diameter is significantly bigger as is everything else in the vicinity too. Brick outhouse Citroen engineering from the good'ol days. Actually, the Safari sphere is the DS design of sphere... I've been asked again earlier whether I want ANOTHER Cx and a red Activa... the damn things just find me no matter how much I hide!! I'm getting those nervous twitches again... Andrew |
| colinxm |
Posted: October 25, 2008 11:08 pm
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Never had a CX, like the looks, the estate looks MASSIVE ! do I really want one ? will it really dissolve in front of my ever nagging wife's eyes ?
Comments appreciated, Colin.P -------------------- Colin.P.
Jørpeland, Norway 1995 2.1TD silver estate, Rp 6723 1979 Triumph TR7 convertable 1998 Ford Puma (the wife's) 1989 Peugeot 205 cabriolet (the son's but I have to fix it...) 2004 Peugeot 307SW (another one for the missus) |
| Andmcit |
Posted: October 25, 2008 11:28 pm
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It IS massive. The Cx Safari is undoubtedly THE BEST ESTATE CAR EVER!!
There, I said it. I'm not biased, whatsoever! I know the company I am in here on the Club-Xm forum and realise it's a provocative thing to say but will stand by this personally held view for ever. The key indisputable fact, is the CX had it's wheelbase lengthened over the saloon to create a superb stable platform from which to tow/carry/glide along with secure effortless and above all safe ease. All the key load area is inside this long wide wheelbase which sadly wasn't adopted for it's successor. Yes, they also rust quite well too. The key thing to accept here is that they do, so you buy the best condition one you can find and have it properly protected. The Xm estate is squarer in it's back end but has a shallower tailgate leaning it shortening real carrying length so it's even stevens depending on what exactly you intend carting about in either. I own an XM estate 2.1TD manual s1 but would more readily get one of my Cx estates up and running before getting the Xm working merrily once more (oil leak on clutch...) As I say, I may be just a tad bit biased here so not best to offer impartial advice! Andrew This post has been edited by Andmcit on October 26, 2008 12:44 am |
| Andmcit |
Posted: October 25, 2008 11:36 pm
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Other noteworthy mentions on a Cx (any one) are the:
double wishbone front suspension, centre point steering angle geometry, Substantial front cross member design for great crash worthiness/protection, DIRAVI 2.5 turns lock to lock self centering CENTREPOINT steering, oh I could go on... yes really. I could! and just the way it looks!!! AND THE WAY IT DRIVES!! Andrew This post has been edited by Andmcit on October 26, 2008 12:52 am |
| colinxm |
Posted: October 26, 2008 12:25 am
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Hmmmm, interesting... i got a mig welder and I'm not afraid to use it
Colin.P -------------------- Colin.P.
Jørpeland, Norway 1995 2.1TD silver estate, Rp 6723 1979 Triumph TR7 convertable 1998 Ford Puma (the wife's) 1989 Peugeot 205 cabriolet (the son's but I have to fix it...) 2004 Peugeot 307SW (another one for the missus) |
| DoubleChevron |
Posted: October 26, 2008 12:48 am
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I'm not the slightest bit biased ... But the CX is better than an XM in everyway I can think of ..... It's so good it'll keep you toasty and warm without even needing to turn the heater on !
seeya, Shane L. -------------------- Location ... Ballarat, Victoria, Australia.
Real cars: Citroens CX's, DS, GS's slowly rusting away. Lumps of merde wearing Citroen badges: '96 XM 2.1TD slugomatic ... "The fragile expensive one". |
| citroenxm |
Posted: October 26, 2008 09:30 am
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Im getting a MIG, and want to use it... Whats the point of having a tool, and not useing it... I agree that the CX IS a massive estate, and knew years ago it was an extended platform.. the days when costs werent a factor and you could do what you wanted.. unlike now were manufactures have to use the same under pinnings on a range of models and you cant make a seperate model..... Paul -------------------- 1993 K Reg 3.0 V6 12 Valve Auto (Green) LPG S1.5 SORNd
1990 H reg 3.0 V6 24 valve Manual. Grey S1 SORNd 1991 H reg 2.1 SED td Manual, Maroon. SORNd 1992 K reg 2.1 SD Manual. Getting ready to sell on 1998 V reg Xantia HDi Exclusive Silver Location: YOU'LL NEVER FIND ME!! |
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| DoubleChevron |
Posted: October 26, 2008 11:05 am
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Well if your looking for a good wagon .... A nice DS23 hydraulique woudl be bloody awesome
seeya, Shane L. -------------------- Location ... Ballarat, Victoria, Australia.
Real cars: Citroens CX's, DS, GS's slowly rusting away. Lumps of merde wearing Citroen badges: '96 XM 2.1TD slugomatic ... "The fragile expensive one". |
| Andmcit |
Posted: October 26, 2008 11:20 am
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Yep, you're right Shane!
I've only driven a D not owned one but am very impressed and in truth would really like one. Problem here is their availability and cost are now beyond my budget and in truth I'm very happily stuck here now in my CX comfort zone with enough cars/parts and experience on them to hopefully see out my days. For sure, I'd really love a saloon AND estate, an Sm, a H van, Ami and Traction... Andrew |
| dean |
Posted: October 26, 2008 02:49 pm
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Colin, Paul,
Its all very well having mig's but you cant weld rust D -------------------- 92 xm 20i prestige auto (modified)R.P 5678
96 Xantia Activa (modified) location-Isle of wight |
| Andmcit |
Posted: October 26, 2008 03:06 pm
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Post 82, and very much post 85, Citroen actually developed a new process to them, called
"rust prevention!" Agreed, it was still all a bit new fangled for them but they purposely held out til Xm production to make a reasonable fist of things though regrettably it was not to be for the s2 Cx. For real Alkaseltzer bodywork, sadly look no further than the totally fabulous Gs... Andrew This post has been edited by Andmcit on October 26, 2008 03:22 pm |
| Andmcit |
Posted: October 26, 2008 03:07 pm
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BTW, I do have many many Cx pictures...
Andrew This post has been edited by Andmcit on October 26, 2008 03:09 pm |
| dean |
Posted: October 26, 2008 03:23 pm
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Well i dont want to see them! i could do without the temptation
Mind you with the whole rust issue, although i cant stand rust in any quantity on cars if you bought one and spent a few days underneath rubbing down and going for some proper rust prevention measures (what citroen should have done in the first place) it should not be an issue...........so long as you can find one thats not full of holes to start with that is Did all CX's have the Dariva steering?? D -------------------- 92 xm 20i prestige auto (modified)R.P 5678
96 Xantia Activa (modified) location-Isle of wight |
| Andmcit |
Posted: October 26, 2008 03:38 pm
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The VERY very early (1976 - yes that long ago!!) base 2.0 has a more basic steering system with
a pathetic 3 turns lock to lock and a bigger steering wheel to compensate for such a backwards step! depending upon your driving style/expectations. I can trot out all the famous road tester quotes of the day on this chapter and verse and very firmly believe there's no better system for relaxed effortless all day long continent busting cruising!! S2 Cx SALOON's only tend to rust on their bootlids, on the rear outer os 1/4 panel under the filler cap and on a badly thought out seam on the front footwells. If you live in a Council area where they go silly with grit from October onwards there may be more seams on the inner sills to protect but that really is it! Cx estates have more challenging rust issues in the rear end particularly along their roof drip rails, tailgate hinge and rear door jamb areas. Do the job/protection right the once and you'll have one| of the best cars ever for a good while into the future! Andrew |
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