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Posted: June 03, 2005 10:16 am
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Andre's Mate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2877 Member No.: 144 Joined: April 06, 2005 |
Hi all,
I have been very interested to see that Noz can look up build date from the RPN. Can the source data be published or do we need to ask individually for each vehicle. regards xmec -------------------- An interest in 2.5TD's.
Location: Hampshire, U.K. |
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Posted: June 03, 2005 10:20 am
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Andre's Mate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2877 Member No.: 144 Joined: April 06, 2005 |
Hi Noz
I forgot to ask. Was your XM that stood in a field for a year or so left behind the factory while they forgot that it was built with the oil in the water problem. regards xmec -------------------- An interest in 2.5TD's.
Location: Hampshire, U.K. |
| noz |
Posted: June 03, 2005 04:49 pm
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![]() Andre's Mate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1673 Member No.: 12 Joined: November 22, 2003 |
Hi xmec,
You can find the manufacturing date of your car here: http://club-xm.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=252 Not sure of the history of the car at all. I bought it on e-bay and collected it from Bristol. Don't know much more than that. The one which stood in the field - tell me more. You've got me interested now. BTW the problem turned out to be the oil cooler after all. However, I'd overhauled the engine completely before I found the source of the oil. :-( Cheers noz -------------------- '10 '59' C5 2.0 HDi Exclusive Tourer Metallic Grey
'97 'P' XM 2.5 TD VSX Saloon RP 6610 Blue '97 'R' XM 2.5 TD Exclusive Saloon RP 7158 Silver '88 CX 22TRS Croisette Location: Avonbridge - Stirlingshire - Central Scotland |
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Posted: June 04, 2005 12:42 pm
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Andre's Mate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2877 Member No.: 144 Joined: April 06, 2005 |
Hi Noz and all
Thanks for pointing me to the bit of the web site that gives the link to the RPN calculator. I have found the results very interesting. I have found out that my 4 XM's with a spread of registrations from M to P were actually all built inside a 5 month period. Registration dates vary between March 1995 and August 1996. Build dates between Feb 1995 and July 1995. From this I have deduced that one of my XM's stood in a field outside the factory or at best on a dealers forcourt for over a year. From my sample this "high quality" storage seems to afflict 2.5 Td estates, but then the sample was 50% 2.5 estates. The 3.0 car was registered within a month of building. The 2.5 car was registered within 3 months of building. One of the 2.5 estates took nearly 5 months from building to registration. The other 2.5 estate took nearly a month over a year to get preregistered by a dealer while still waiting another 2 months to be sold. I think it was a comment by Noz that his P reg 2.5 had a lower RPN than the N reg that started me checking these facts but now I cannot find a reference to this on the web site. Regards XMexec -------------------- An interest in 2.5TD's.
Location: Hampshire, U.K. |
| noz |
Posted: June 04, 2005 03:33 pm
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![]() Andre's Mate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1673 Member No.: 12 Joined: November 22, 2003 |
Hi XMexec,
It would be interesting to know the difference between manufacture date and date of first registration for all members. Some of these cars may have lain in a field for a couple of years before being sold. The thread started here: http://club-xm.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=303 Cheers Norrie -------------------- '10 '59' C5 2.0 HDi Exclusive Tourer Metallic Grey
'97 'P' XM 2.5 TD VSX Saloon RP 6610 Blue '97 'R' XM 2.5 TD Exclusive Saloon RP 7158 Silver '88 CX 22TRS Croisette Location: Avonbridge - Stirlingshire - Central Scotland |
| DerekW |
Posted: June 14, 2005 12:11 am
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Andre's Mate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1320 Member No.: 173 Joined: June 01, 2005 |
Hi everyone,
Interesting that xmexclusive's 3.0 V6 was registered within a month of building. My V6 Exclusive has RP number 8362 which puts its manufacturing date as 1st October 1999. Its date of first registration was 22nd October 1999 - hardly time for them to ship it across from France. Odd that they both moved so quickly as that model was supposed to have been hated by dealers because they sat around in the showroom for ages. -------------------- 1999 3.0V624v Exclusive Black! (RP8362)
2004 C3 Sensodrive Exclusive 1994 ZX Aura 1.8 auto Location: 5 miles North of Boston, Lincolnshire |
| noz |
Posted: June 14, 2005 07:07 am
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![]() Andre's Mate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1673 Member No.: 12 Joined: November 22, 2003 |
Hi Derek,
There's a big difference between those cars built speculatively and those built to order. Although rare, there must have been some people who actually liked the XM enough to pick one out of a brochure and order it. If it was of sufficiently high or odd spec (colour for example) then there may have been no speculative units built. In which case the car is built, shipped and registered in the UK in a very short time. Cheers noz -------------------- '10 '59' C5 2.0 HDi Exclusive Tourer Metallic Grey
'97 'P' XM 2.5 TD VSX Saloon RP 6610 Blue '97 'R' XM 2.5 TD Exclusive Saloon RP 7158 Silver '88 CX 22TRS Croisette Location: Avonbridge - Stirlingshire - Central Scotland |
| carliterature |
Posted: June 14, 2005 09:35 pm
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My V6 Exclusive must have had an unloved early life then!! It was built on 1 December according to the RPN yet registered mid-May 1999. I'd be surprised if such a model would have been a speculative build (it's metallic cherry red - forget the Citroen name for the shade) and I don't personally recall seeing one that colour (apart from in the brochure). I'd be surprised if a dealer ordered it as a demo either... I'm guessing, as it's been also specced with an electric sunroof (not standard as far as I know at the time) it was deliberately ordered by a customer who changed their mind so it sat wherever until someone else came along.
-------------------- 00W Citroen XM 3.0i V6 24V Exclusive
99T Citroen XM 3.0i V6 24V Exclusive 98S Citroen Xantia 3.0i V6 24V Exclusive 99T Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 V6 24V Sportronic Lusso 97R MGF 1.8i 92K Jaguar XJ6 3.2 Gold 91J Ford Sierra 1.8 LX 87E Peugeot 309 GE 1.1 *** COLLECTING UK MARKET CAR SALES BROCHURES FOR ALL MAKES AND MODELS - PM ME IF YOU WANT TO DISPOSE OF ANYTHING *** |
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Posted: June 14, 2005 09:41 pm
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![]() Andre's Mate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1673 Member No.: 12 Joined: November 22, 2003 |
Hi carliterature,
Sounds eminently plausible although who would choose 'cherry red'? Then again, maybe thats why it was cancelled. The bloke sobered up and thought.... God, what was I thinking of...? Cheers noz ps apologies if the first owner is reading this - only joking - I like red -------------------- '10 '59' C5 2.0 HDi Exclusive Tourer Metallic Grey
'97 'P' XM 2.5 TD VSX Saloon RP 6610 Blue '97 'R' XM 2.5 TD Exclusive Saloon RP 7158 Silver '88 CX 22TRS Croisette Location: Avonbridge - Stirlingshire - Central Scotland |
| carliterature |
Posted: June 14, 2005 11:33 pm
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![]() Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 76 Member No.: 168 Joined: May 22, 2005 |
Sounds eminently plausible although who would choose 'cherry red'? Then again, maybe thats why it was cancelled. The bloke sobered up and thought.... God, what was I thinking of...?
Actually, it doesn't look at all bad - my old man's Rover 75 is a very similar shade and they look quite classy together. -------------------- 00W Citroen XM 3.0i V6 24V Exclusive
99T Citroen XM 3.0i V6 24V Exclusive 98S Citroen Xantia 3.0i V6 24V Exclusive 99T Alfa Romeo 166 3.0 V6 24V Sportronic Lusso 97R MGF 1.8i 92K Jaguar XJ6 3.2 Gold 91J Ford Sierra 1.8 LX 87E Peugeot 309 GE 1.1 *** COLLECTING UK MARKET CAR SALES BROCHURES FOR ALL MAKES AND MODELS - PM ME IF YOU WANT TO DISPOSE OF ANYTHING *** |
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Posted: June 18, 2005 07:05 pm
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Andre's Mate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2877 Member No.: 144 Joined: April 06, 2005 |
Hi all and Noz
yesterday I passed an Xantia N520RAC so I guess the preregistered block was 999 vehicles not the 500 I suggested. In trying to sort out the suspension struts today I found that I did not know when the Citroen Model Year starts and finishes. Anyone help. More specifically Noz any chance of a look at the Model change information from the front of the Mk1 workshop manual and strut/suspension pages. Regards XMexc -------------------- An interest in 2.5TD's.
Location: Hampshire, U.K. |
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-------------------- 1991 XM V6 SE1 Auto Maroon RP 5127
1993 XM V6 SE1 Auto Blue-Grey RP 5861- stuffed auto!! 1992 ZX 19i Auto Black RP 5722 Little rocket!! 1986 BX 16RS Auto Silver, lovely car to drive! |
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Posted: June 24, 2005 06:56 pm
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Andre's Mate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2877 Member No.: 144 Joined: April 06, 2005 |
Hi Horrid1 and all
I have had a look under the bonnet of the 3.0 XM 12v. The distributor on mine has the red ignition leads labled on the black plastic housing as follows from top down:- B321654 The leads are connected as follows:- B goes to the coil, 1 is on the front V cylinder nearest the black plastic housing referred to above. 1, 2 & 3 run in sequence acroos the front row of cylinders, so that 3 is nearest the Radiator header tank. Lead 4 goes to the back row of cylinders nearest the black plastic housing end. 4, 5 & 6 run in sequence across the back cylinders, so that 6 is nearest the radiator header tank. Org Number of the vehicle I checked is 6675 Hope this is of help Regards XMexc -------------------- An interest in 2.5TD's.
Location: Hampshire, U.K. |
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Posted: June 24, 2005 11:31 pm
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Thanks for your prompt reply! I have the same black superficial cover with the same markings and I see that all the numbers are cast into the block (ie. 1,2 ,3 etc.). The distributor cap itself has seven outlets with the centre one being for the lead to the coil. I need to know the numbering for the other six outlets. I have replaced the leads as I found them, and the car is running very rough but smoothes out with a few revs. I am wondering if perhaps a couple of the leads could be in the wrong places!! I had a V8 Frord that would run with leads transposed, but I don't know about a V6 motor. I have checked the resistance of the leads and find a couple with extra high resistance so I think they may be at fault and will look at replacing them, Thanks for your help so far, Ernie. -------------------- 1991 XM V6 SE1 Auto Maroon RP 5127
1993 XM V6 SE1 Auto Blue-Grey RP 5861- stuffed auto!! 1992 ZX 19i Auto Black RP 5722 Little rocket!! 1986 BX 16RS Auto Silver, lovely car to drive! |
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Posted: June 25, 2005 01:19 pm
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Andre's Mate ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2877 Member No.: 144 Joined: April 06, 2005 |
Hi ernie
Have now opened the black cover to the leads to look for the information that you asked for. Cover is marked: Bosch 1230 591 039 The leads working up from the radiator end towards the windscreen come from: 2, 4, 5, B, 3, 1, 6. Sorry not to get the full information first time. If you need to look at one to check then if you are anywhere close to me (Hampshire) then please email me to arrange. Regards XMexc -------------------- An interest in 2.5TD's.
Location: Hampshire, U.K. |
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