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Really Heavy Clutch| very tall brad |
Posted: November 28, 2007 02:10 am
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I hope someone can suggest some advice before I get under my car unnecessarily
 I have just bought this car, a 1995 XM VSX Turbo manual. It has been little used for 2 years, apparently. The clutch is very stiff and heavy. There is no slop at all in the pedal and no clutch 'slip'. Any suggestions?? Hydraulic prob? Cable prob? Other? Thanks Brad -------------------- Citroen XM Prestige 2.0 auto saloon 1992 (from nearly new)
Citroen XM VSX Turbo petrol auto estate 1995 Citroen XM VSX Turbo petrol auto 2000W 50000 miles (as new) Citroen Grand Picasso C4 VTR+ 2007(from new) Lexus LS400 V8 2000W Renault Grand Espace V6 2002 Rover 827 Coupe (x 3) Rover Sterling (X 11) Rover 820 (X 2) Rover 827 i/Si/SLi (X 3) Rover Vitesse 827 (X 3) LHD Sterling 827S 1988 from California Renault 5TR 1989 from new Morris Marina 1.3 SDL Coupe 1974 Austin miniMetro 1980W as new MG MGB GT 1980 W Orange Rover Metro 1.1S 1991 Ford Granada Scorpio 2.9 1988 Vauxhall Senator 24V 3.0 1993 Black, low low miles |
 
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| demag |
Posted: November 28, 2007 05:43 am
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If its a 2.5 its hydraulic. Not any old hydraulic though, oh no. Its Citroens special "sealed" hydraulic system
 I think all the other clutches are cable. I suppose if its been stood something might have siezed. Does it change gear ok? -------------------- Dave.
To flush, or not to flush? That is the question.............. 2.5TD VSX Hatch RP 6738 1992 BX16 TXS........Hasn't been well but getting better! Now has driveshaft gaiters and a dry bottom! Black Country, Staffs. |
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| very tall brad |
Posted: November 28, 2007 09:08 am
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Its the 2.0 Petrol Turbo. It changes gear well. There is a bit of looseness in the gearstick (its done 150000 miles) but I am worried that the effort I am exerting having to depress the clutch is putting a strain on the system somewhere. -------------------- Citroen XM Prestige 2.0 auto saloon 1992 (from nearly new)
Citroen XM VSX Turbo petrol auto estate 1995 Citroen XM VSX Turbo petrol auto 2000W 50000 miles (as new) Citroen Grand Picasso C4 VTR+ 2007(from new) Lexus LS400 V8 2000W Renault Grand Espace V6 2002 Rover 827 Coupe (x 3) Rover Sterling (X 11) Rover 820 (X 2) Rover 827 i/Si/SLi (X 3) Rover Vitesse 827 (X 3) LHD Sterling 827S 1988 from California Renault 5TR 1989 from new Morris Marina 1.3 SDL Coupe 1974 Austin miniMetro 1980W as new MG MGB GT 1980 W Orange Rover Metro 1.1S 1991 Ford Granada Scorpio 2.9 1988 Vauxhall Senator 24V 3.0 1993 Black, low low miles |
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| Ken newbold |
Posted: November 28, 2007 09:18 am
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If it's done 150,000, the strain will probably be on the cable as the clutch is old and tired.
If this is the same cable as the 2.1 diesel, be warned, they are expensive! unless you can get hold of a secondhand one. -------------------- 92 (J) 2.1TD Est. Usual Green.
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| techmanagain |
Posted: November 28, 2007 11:52 am
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If its been standing for a few months, I would suggest that you try by any means to get some thin lubricant into the ends of the clutch release bearing shaft in the gearbox casing. You will probably say it's impossible, but try a flexible tube and get something there , even if it is only paraffin.
-------------------- Xantia 2 litre HDi Saloon X reg 1999
.Peugeot 306 1.8 Petrol Automatic Hatchback. Now for sale. |
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| very tall brad |
Posted: November 28, 2007 01:56 pm
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Thank you for all of your replies and help. I'll leave it parked up in the dry til I can lubricate it properly. Being 6 feet 8 I can usually reach most places!
-------------------- Citroen XM Prestige 2.0 auto saloon 1992 (from nearly new)
Citroen XM VSX Turbo petrol auto estate 1995 Citroen XM VSX Turbo petrol auto 2000W 50000 miles (as new) Citroen Grand Picasso C4 VTR+ 2007(from new) Lexus LS400 V8 2000W Renault Grand Espace V6 2002 Rover 827 Coupe (x 3) Rover Sterling (X 11) Rover 820 (X 2) Rover 827 i/Si/SLi (X 3) Rover Vitesse 827 (X 3) LHD Sterling 827S 1988 from California Renault 5TR 1989 from new Morris Marina 1.3 SDL Coupe 1974 Austin miniMetro 1980W as new MG MGB GT 1980 W Orange Rover Metro 1.1S 1991 Ford Granada Scorpio 2.9 1988 Vauxhall Senator 24V 3.0 1993 Black, low low miles |
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| kenhall1202 |
Posted: November 28, 2007 03:01 pm
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Re Ken Newbold's earlier post, do I take it that 2.1TD clutch cables are only available from Citroen? I don't think I have ever seen them listed in GSF etc's catalogues.
Ken -------------------- 97R XM 2.1 TD VSX Saloon, RP 7249, Emerald Green
96P ZX 1.9TD Saloon (Alas no more, rear ended and written off!!) replaced by: '55 C4 2.0HDI Exclusive ('Alive with technology' or should it read 'Even more things to go wrong!') Location: West Cumbria, UK |
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| Ken newbold |
Posted: November 28, 2007 10:26 pm
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Malcolm Lockwood got me one at cost, 3 years ago. £55, then.
-------------------- 92 (J) 2.1TD Est. Usual Green.
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| DrTim |
Posted: November 28, 2007 11:46 pm
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My 2.0CT VSX has a very light clutch, less that 60k still so I suspect its still the original.
My old one has a clutch like yours, VERY heavy, that one has 160k and is on at least its second clutch (done at 140kish, had it since 114k). If there's an easy way to lighten it up I'm interested in knowing how too. regards -------------------- XM 2.0i Prestiege (Red) 1992 K reg RP 5692 (deceased)
XM 2.0i Turbo Ct VSX (blue) 1996 R Reg RP CJ 7135 |
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| aengus-xmv6 |
Posted: November 29, 2007 01:32 am
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What's the pedal travel like? If there is little travel and the pedal stays low to the floor (can you 'flip' it back to the 'normal' position by putting your foot under it?), then it's probably clutch wear, and it'll start to slip in a while.... Dave -------------------- G-reg XM V6SEi saloon, light blue, RP4764
Plus a load of S1 V6 spares in the garage! Previous cits: XM 2.0SEi auto (H) XM 2.0SEi manual (J) BX19 GTi Essex |
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| Peter.N. |
Posted: November 29, 2007 11:19 am
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I improved the clutch operation on my 2.1s by lubricating the bearing on the top of the gearbox where the cable lever is attached, several applications of engine oil my be required over a few days. the cable linkage where it enters the bulkhead to the pedal will also benifit from some engine oil.
Peter.N. -------------------- Used to have:
'96 'N' 2.1 td VSX manual estate White RP6695. '01 'Y' 406 GXL Hdi 110 manual estate silver '01 C5 estate 2.0. Hdi 110hp manual Located in Charmouth, Dorset. U.K. Blower transistors MJ 11015 |
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