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| DrTim |
Posted: September 18, 2007 08:22 pm
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OK now the S1 is MOT's and driveable again (new cam tensioner) I am wondering how to get some sounds in there cheap,. Clarion radio gave up last winter, and its been sitting in the living room waiting for me to try and fi it for too long now. Would like to fix it sometime (its got LW!) but realisically I need to get something in there soonish. So if I get a cheapish head unit what adapter cables do I need. It looks like I need one for the control stalk (not essential) and one to convert the speakers to standard DIN plug (essential). Am I on the right track? Any other gothcas or pitfalls? Anyone recommend particular products (adaptor cables)? regards -------------------- XM 2.0i Prestiege (Red) 1992 K reg RP 5692 (deceased)
XM 2.0i Turbo Ct VSX (blue) 1996 R Reg RP CJ 7135 |
| Peter.N. |
Posted: September 18, 2007 09:53 pm
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I have a Kenwood radio/cd in mine which I bought about three years ago. At the time you could get a wiring/steering wheel adaptor off the internet, they also did some for Pioneer radios. Whether they are still available on not I dont know. The only thing I can suggest is doing a search on the net.
Peter.N. -------------------- Used to have:
'96 'N' 2.1 td VSX manual estate White RP6695. '01 'Y' 406 GXL Hdi 110 manual estate silver '01 C5 estate 2.0. Hdi 110hp manual Located in Charmouth, Dorset. U.K. Blower transistors MJ 11015 |
| DrTim |
Posted: September 18, 2007 10:20 pm
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Thanks Peter, I have done a search and come up with options from under a tenner to almost 50 quid.
Don't you have a S2 not an S1 anyway? regards -------------------- XM 2.0i Prestiege (Red) 1992 K reg RP 5692 (deceased)
XM 2.0i Turbo Ct VSX (blue) 1996 R Reg RP CJ 7135 |
| rowanmoor |
Posted: September 19, 2007 08:28 am
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There was a controls adaptor on ebay this morning...
Here it is This is for Sony units. There seem to be 2 leads in the picture. The bigger one is what I have in my Mk2 and it works brilliantly. Is the other a converter from the Mk1 wiring to the Mk2 in order to plug it into a Mk1? Even if the bidding gets out of control, it will tell you what to search for on Google. -------------------- 94M XM 2.5 TD VSX Estate RP 6430 Forest Green
Redhill, Surrey. |
| Peter.N. |
Posted: September 19, 2007 11:35 am
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That was useful! and yes, mine is a Mk2 but they were available for both. I know someone else who would like that, but I will restrain myself.
Peter.N. -------------------- Used to have:
'96 'N' 2.1 td VSX manual estate White RP6695. '01 'Y' 406 GXL Hdi 110 manual estate silver '01 C5 estate 2.0. Hdi 110hp manual Located in Charmouth, Dorset. U.K. Blower transistors MJ 11015 |
| DrTim |
Posted: September 19, 2007 07:51 pm
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Yup I spotted the Sony adapter just browsing now. Maybe I will bid, will this work with non-Sony had units, I thought they all had ISO standard connectors now?
My currenr understanding is that Mk1 and Mk2 both need and adaptor cable for the steering wheel controls (is it the SAME adaptor for Mk1 and Mk2, maybe not as there are more controls on the Mk2). Alo, the Mk1 1 requires and adaptor cable for the speakers power etc wheres the Mk2 has ISO standard connectors for this. Reassurances or corrections welcome. I am currently slightly temppted by this head unit as it has LW, and they do adaptor cables, but the steering controls adaptor is over 30 quid, which is gonna make it over a 100 for the lot, will hang on and see what happens on ebay over the next few days. http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/stock01/kdc_w4534.asp This page also is quite informative http://www.justkenwood.co.uk/install/show_model.asp?id=47 Implies different controls adaptor is required for S1. Maybe this info will be helpful to someone in the future. -------------------- XM 2.0i Prestiege (Red) 1992 K reg RP 5692 (deceased)
XM 2.0i Turbo Ct VSX (blue) 1996 R Reg RP CJ 7135 |
| Peter.N. |
Posted: September 19, 2007 09:45 pm
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My understanding is that they will only work wth the specified radio's. Something to do with the encoding. Having been a TV engineer for over 50 years I ought o be able to explain more fully, but I am afraid modern electronics have past me by. I am sure there is someone on here with a younger brain that can.
Peter.N. -------------------- Used to have:
'96 'N' 2.1 td VSX manual estate White RP6695. '01 'Y' 406 GXL Hdi 110 manual estate silver '01 C5 estate 2.0. Hdi 110hp manual Located in Charmouth, Dorset. U.K. Blower transistors MJ 11015 |
| rowanmoor |
Posted: September 20, 2007 08:08 am
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I have always assumed that the different makes have a different connector for the steering controls. It is not part of the ISO block anyway. The Sony's have a 3.5mm jack plug (more than the normal 3 channels for an audio one, but can't remember how many there are on there).
I think the Mk1 and Mk2 have different connectors from the controls. The Mk2 is a long thin one with 6 or 8 or so wires in a single row. I have a feeling the Mk1 may be round but I am not sure. Someone will correct me if I am wrong I hope. -------------------- 94M XM 2.5 TD VSX Estate RP 6430 Forest Green
Redhill, Surrey. |
| DrTim |
Posted: September 20, 2007 09:47 pm
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so there is no ISO standard for the remote controls? Seems a bit silly to me? Anyone else got any input before I carry on bidding on useless cables?
regards -------------------- XM 2.0i Prestiege (Red) 1992 K reg RP 5692 (deceased)
XM 2.0i Turbo Ct VSX (blue) 1996 R Reg RP CJ 7135 |
| demag |
Posted: September 21, 2007 12:30 am
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Have you looked at Pixmania? Loads of ice there.
-------------------- Dave.
To flush, or not to flush? That is the question.............. 2.5TD VSX Hatch RP 6738 1992 BX16 TXS........Hasn't been well but getting better! Now has driveshaft gaiters and a dry bottom! Black Country, Staffs. |
| DrTim |
Posted: September 21, 2007 05:46 pm
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Not until you mentioned it, but thanks for the tip, although I am still unclear about what I need to get any old head unit to work with the S1 steering wheel control. -------------------- XM 2.0i Prestiege (Red) 1992 K reg RP 5692 (deceased)
XM 2.0i Turbo Ct VSX (blue) 1996 R Reg RP CJ 7135 |
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| dean |
Posted: September 29, 2007 06:19 pm
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Bit of a late entry here, but i have a Sony head unit which does not connect with my steering wheel controls, but it has a remote control with it???? for when your driving from the boot i suppose
If you have managed to track a suitable head unit down could you let me know how you get on, and if not i have an original clarion radio cassette if your interested Regards Dean -------------------- 92 xm 20i prestige auto (modified)R.P 5678
96 Xantia Activa (modified) location-Isle of wight |
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