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Zaphod
Posted: July 26, 2007 08:04 pm


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Picked up the turbo VSX today.. nice car, lovley drive,but it has a number of odd issues..

When you unlock it the front lights start flashing, as does the dipped lights indicator on the dash, a short while later this stops. Car starts fine, although the keypad is disabled (is this good or bad?)

While starting the starter motor is a bit sluggish, not sure if its the starter or battery.

The plip seems inooperative, even with teh batteries atth work in my S1 plip it still seems dead, absolutly no sign of life, no lights at all

When I picked it up teh interior fan motor was on full balst,and wodul not turn off at all, but now it seems to be working fine..

The dot matrix display works perfectly is this a fault?

The bulb for the gearbox display is blown, how do I get the instrument panel out to change it? (Mk2)

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DerekW
Posted: July 26, 2007 11:26 pm


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Hi Stewart,

Ref the gear indicator bulb, you need to undo the lower instrument panel and ease it back so you can undo the lower screw(s) holding the instrument surround. Full details for removal are here http://perso.orange.fr/alain.mionnet/xmdisp.htm and Jan Hendrik has provided a translation in "Lower instrument panel" page 1 down the bottom on this section of our forum. Note that you do not have to remove the lower instrument panel, only move it back sufficient to free the surround.

Once the instrument surround is off, you'll see the three colour coded plugs that feed the main instruments. On each one, rotate the catch away from the wires and push down on it. This will pop each plug off in turn.

Undo the two black screws you see at the bottom of the instruments and you should be able to remove the instruments from the car.

You have to remove the plastic cover from the back of the fuel/temp/oil level instrument in order to reach the gear display. The cover is held in place by four tiny tork screws, no. 6 I think. Or you might be able to free them with judicious use of a pair of pliers.

Once the cover is off you should be able to see the display bulb - changing it is a different matter - I had to dismantle the indicator.

I also decided that whilst I had the instruments out it would be prudent to change all the bulbs, I cleared the stock of the local Citroen and Peugeot agents.

Removing the instruments is not difficult but good luck with the bulb.

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Posted: July 26, 2007 11:53 pm


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Hi Stewart

It is normal to get the flashing lights when unlocking a Mk2 car with a key IF the alarm has been set by locking the car with the plip. This suggests that your defective plip set may be the cause of the problems. I can provide a car to test your plip set in or lend you a working plip set to try in your car.

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Posted: July 27, 2007 08:27 am


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Definitely a fault with the dot matrix rolleyes.gif . Everything else sounds normal wink.gif


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Posted: July 27, 2007 11:32 am


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Hi all.

Working dot matrix --- pull the other one !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Posted: July 27, 2007 07:58 pm


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Stewart,

You can RESET the alarm with the key... Firstly you need to find the ALARM cancel button on the dash... It looks like a Loud speaker with a cross through it...

You'll then need to disconnect your battery,make sure you have the correct radio code, then reconnect your battery, then press and hold the button with the crossed out siren and switch your ignition on, this then should reset the alarm and light circuit.. Your flashing light problem should now be gone.. You'll know if your successfull, as your indicators will flash rapidly when it cancels..

You can also STILL deadlock your car too, when you lock the car with the key HOLD the key in the turned position for a moment and you'll hear the deadlocks activate... De activate simply when you unlock the car...


GOOD luck!!

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Posted: July 27, 2007 10:10 pm


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A few points to note:-
1. You cannot set the alarm with the key, only with the plip, on an S2.
2. The plip is identified with the vehicle and not resettable to another vehicle.
3. If the alarm is set with the plip and door unlocked with the key the alarm will go off and must be cancelled with the dash button & key as described.
4. If the keypad does not require a code, it has either been set that way using the personal code followed by a code to activate that mode or the keypad has been disconnected.
5.If you do not have the personal code to unlock the immobiliser, you will not be able to restore the keypad to normal function, or if you reconnect a disconnected keypad , and do not know the personal code you are in deep trouble!

B.

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Posted: July 29, 2007 08:39 pm


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QUOTE (citroenxm @ Jul 27 2007, 18:58 PM)



You can also STILL deadlock your car too, when you lock the car with the key HOLD the key in the turned position for a moment and you'll hear the deadlocks activate...  De activate simply when you unlock the car...


GOOD luck!!

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Well you learn something every day - I didn't know about the deadlocks - thanks very much!

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Posted: July 29, 2007 11:10 pm


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Hi

Have a care on deadlocking. One of the common modes of failure is for a Mk2 to deadlock on the key then refuse to let the key unlock. Put a window down before you experiment and try things for the first time.

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Posted: July 30, 2007 10:58 am


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Good point xmex in case the open key position fails to engage the door unlock contacts.Opening a window will not provide a safe tryout however, unless the deadlocking is not working. The whole point of deadlocking is to prevent doors being opened from the inside by breaking a window or inserting a fishwire. Deadlocking will work with a window open. For a safe tryout close a front door to just short of latching (door cotact closed) and use the key to deadlock and then open, you should hear the mechanism operate at both key positions. An open window will allow you to get into or escape from the car (if you are small enough) but taking the door trim off a locked door to release mechanism?........not much fun I think.
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Posted: July 30, 2007 11:12 am


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Hi Robert

I like your solution to deadlock testing. I agree with you that removing door trim via an open window is difficult but not as difficult as having to break into the car first.

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Posted: July 30, 2007 12:50 pm


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Hi XMexc,
Yes,have to agree,perish the thought!I guess the best practice is to ensure the key at least opens the C/L on BOTH front doors and to use the key to test that occasionally, even you have a working plip.
Cheers,R
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Posted: July 30, 2007 08:47 pm


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QUOTE (xmexclusive @ Jul 29 2007, 22:10 PM)
Hi

Have a care on deadlocking. One of the common modes of failure is for a Mk2 to deadlock on the key then refuse to let the key unlock. Put a window down before you experiment and try things for the first time.

Regards

XMexc

Bugger - you've gone and ruined it now! laugh.gif I've just gone outside and taken the deadlocking off!


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