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hank
Posted: November 05, 2006 01:41 pm


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The electric windows in the back are very slow. I am afraid to use them as they seem to be under some pressure. is there a way of lubricating them or is it a sign that they are about to give up. the front ones seem fine.Thanks.


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Posted: November 05, 2006 01:48 pm


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I have in the past sprayed guides etc with silicone spray which did help.


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Posted: November 05, 2006 06:08 pm


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I'd second the silicone approach. Also, while operating them a few times, if you have a spare pair of hands, help them up and down by hand until they become perceptibly freer.

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Peter.N.
Posted: November 05, 2006 06:20 pm


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I would second that. They probably havn't been used very much, a good squirt of aerosol silicon in the up and down the guides should help and then they should continue to free off with use.

Sorry about the duplication, I got half way through typing and had to leave for a few minutes. Still, you should have got the point now! smile.gif

This post has been edited by Peter.N. on November 05, 2006 06:22 pm


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Posted: November 06, 2006 12:14 am


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But where from do u spray guys? Do u mean the door trim has to be off or just by putting window down and sticking the spray throught the slot?

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Posted: November 06, 2006 01:00 am


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My passenger side front window comes down quickly, but is very slow togo back up... I was thinking of trying the lubricating the guides method, however I suspect this could be electrical / mechanical, since the slowness is only in one direction....



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Posted: November 06, 2006 11:02 am


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The channels that the glass slides up and down in George, in the window frame, lined with furry bristly stuff.

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Posted: November 06, 2006 11:31 am


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Hi Hank

Each opening window glass has a black plastic guide block fixed to it near the top on the vertical side. (Back edge for front windows, Front edge for back windows). This runs in the guide channel of the door and holds the glass square in the frame to be driven up and down. This plastic block and the vertical channel it runs in are the critical bits to lubricate. The lubrication of a stiff window can be important as the plastic can wear away rapidly if the guide is dry until the window jams and snaps the cable or burns out the motor.

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Posted: November 06, 2006 01:43 pm


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Hi All and everyone.,

Another tip I was told about was also to check the Loom plug on the door between the car and door. These can get the useual corosion and have bad connections which can affect things. I beleve, if you remove the plug, WD40 it all to clean it all up and reconnect it can help.
I did this on my 12v 3.0 and it worked for a while, then slowed again, but I'm not certain of a proper cleanup job.

Not sure if anyone goes near Xantias, but these do not have a harness join in the door, and I've yet to see Slow windows on a Xantia.

Worth a thought I think..

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Posted: November 11, 2006 01:04 am


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True what you say about the Xantias, CitroenXM. I don't know why, but they don't seem to suffer from the same window issues as the XM.
All four windows in the '95 Xantia we have still operate perfectly, quick and smooth, with no noise or scraping, even the rarely used rear ones...


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hank
Posted: March 23, 2007 10:19 pm


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QUOTE (xmexclusive @ Nov 6 2006, 10:31 AM)
Hi Hank

Each opening window glass has a black plastic guide block fixed to it near the top on the vertical side. (Back edge for front windows, Front edge for back windows). This runs in the guide channel of the door and holds the glass square in the frame to be driven up and down. This plastic block and the vertical channel it runs in are the critical bits to lubricate. The lubrication of a stiff window can be important as the plastic can wear away rapidly if the guide is dry until the window jams and snaps the cable or burns out the motor.

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XMexc

Hello, its been a good while since I made this enquiry but haven't been able to get to the job of freeing up windows. I have 3 working fine now but one of the back windows has come away from the black plastic guide. there is a hole in the glass where I think it connects to the guide but any idea how to do it?
thanks for all the help.


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Posted: March 23, 2007 11:44 pm


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Hi Hank

Next time I am over the unit I will have a look as I have some removed window glass with guide blocks fitted. I suspect that the block is held in place by a plastic pin but will check. If you can see the hole for the guide block pin in the glass then the block is most likely lost. You will need to check that it is not jammed in the guide channel otherwise it will rip off the glass any new one you fit. If you are missing the block it may be easier to fit a replacement secondhand window rather than try to repair yours. I also have a spare door to strip so I will have a look and see if it is possible to release and reposition the glass in the door to replace the block.

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Posted: March 24, 2007 12:54 am


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Hello
I do have the block in two pieces. there is one piece which I think connects to the hole in the glass and then clips into the rest of the plastic block. I would be grateful if you could advise how to connect the glass to the plastic. thanks again


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Posted: March 26, 2007 10:55 am


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I lubricated the channels with silicon spray and the metal guide with vaseline.

But still the windows are much 'rougher' than on my Xantia.

Steve.


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Posted: March 26, 2007 12:51 pm


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Steelcity

Try removing the Multiplug that connects the door harness to the Pillars on the car on each door, they twist undo.. clean the contacts up in there with WD or equivilent, and re-connect and try that..

I think the reason Xantias dont suffer so much is theres no connection between the doors and pillars.. Thats my theory anyway.

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